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submitted 1 year ago by tester1121@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

I keep hearing on VPN ads that you have to use a VPN to not have your login information stolen. So far I have been using Cloudflare WARP to be safe enough. However, if I am using an HTTPS website, do I really need a VPN or WARP? Will an attacker on the same network as me be able to access passwords transmitted over HTTPS?

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[-] loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 1 year ago

If I'm on the same network, it is possible to have a MITM attack and resolve the content of the SSL cert.

[-] Swiggles@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago

Resolve the content of the SSL cert? Sounds like something the CSI writers would say...

No, SSL is actually very good in preventing MITM attacks. That's what alle the CAs are for you trust on your device.

https://github.com/moxie0/sslstrip

https://github.com/moxie0/sslsniff

You can ARP spoof a network and also serve spoofed certs resulting in the ability to resolve them. But I can see, if your not an expert, it's hard to see the difference between reality and Navy CIS

[-] Swiggles@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sorry, but no. Resolve certs? Seriously?

I don't care anyway if you wanna start the not an expert argument. What you linked doesn't work either in the modern web so... No, I am out.

[-] ranok@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

This is pretty misleading due to its brevity, an attacker on the same network can determine what website you're going to but not the content being exchanged. A VPN moves the threat of having your browsing destination determined to the VPN provider from the local network.

That said, modern WiFi encryption does prevent other devices on the network from eavesdropping, so the attacker would have to employ a more involved attack (e.g. ARP spoofing) in order to even see the destinations.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

That's not really the case unless you add cert authorities to your device.

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