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The issue was i’ll running of prohibition. Had better steps taken to ensure alcohol was removed (like slowly limiting it over time) then those issues may not have been as prevalent. The issue with organized crime may also have had to do with certain economic woes at the time
this time we'll be good and only poison hundreds of people instead of thousands! please pay no attention to the alcohol cartels seizing total power, surely has nothing to do with giving them 100% of the market and artificially suppressing supply to ensure their superprofits
not to mention how incredibly easy alcohol is to make
How is what you are saying a different argument than saying that socialism doesn’t work because the USSR collapsed
i don't see how that's relevant or related at all
Because it’s the same fundamental logic
Communism is when we ban alcohol? What does implementing a new economic system have to do with banning alcohol, can you spell it out in more detail?
Communism has historically eradicated organized crime, Cuba has the lowest crime in all of latin america and basically no organized crime. How are you drawing that together with a half-baked idealist movement that resulted in unintended backlash and handing more power to cartels?
If something is a bad idea because it (some would argue) failed or collapsed once then wouldn’t that be an argument agaisnt socialism?
Prohibition can only fail because it's extremely easy to make your own booze in a bathtub. It's functionally impossible to actually ban it.
That's different than a new economic system being temporarily suppressed by the existing system before contradiction cause it to rear up again. Capitalism failed hundreds of times to defeat Feudalism, until it didn't. Prohibition isn't the necessary resolution of the contradictions of capitalism coming to a head, it's a specific policy. Socialism cannot be defeated until humanity goes extinct, as the contradictions of capitalism will keep pushing socialism back onto the world stage over and over until it wins eventually. There's no dialectical world historical process pushing forward prohibition in this way