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The "it'll cost you a bazillion dollars to replace your battery" thing is stupid. Most batteries will last as long as the car.
https://www.carscoops.com/2023/03/worry-over-battery-lifespan-putting-you-off-buying-an-ev-relax-says-new-study/
"They found that in a community of 15,000 electric cars only 1.5 percent of batteries have been replaced if you exclude massive recalls [...] The team also points out that most battery replacements happen when the car is still covered by a warranty."
I'm not sure looking at the stats like that is really all that useful.
There are two situations where the battery replacement happens:
It's definitely not a given that everyone who wants to replace their battery can and does. This post is about longevity, so presumably most of the time in that situation the person will have to cover the cost of replacement themselves.
I want to be clear, I'm not arguing against EVs. I'm just saying this article doesn't really have enough information to draw a conclusion.
Battery warranties are pretty cut-and-dry, there's little convincing needed.
If the capacity is below the threshold, it gets replaced
This assumes that it's within the warranty period (or recall period assuming there is a recall). After that the customer absolutely will be on their own for the repairs assuming they don't have an aftermarket warranty which a fair number of people don't bother with.
Eight years/100,000 miles for cars in the US, it's very generous
Shops are already repairing batteries. All EV batteries are made of thousands of cells, of which individual cells can be swapped by any enterprising individual.
Unrelated to the entire discussion on cars: This is important! What you just did is so so important. I WANT to believe that EVs are great, and they probably are, but the study seems somewhat lackluster. An someone needa to point it out, regardless of their own opinion.
As someone who bought a Tesla because my GTI's engine died at 95k miles, I'll take my chances with the electricity
The Nissan Leaf seems to be the only one worth being concerned about. Don't quote me on this but I remember reading the old ones (like 2011ish to around 2016-17) had poor airflow to cool the battery so they lost capacity quicker
They don't have active cooling/heating like newer EVs do.
The mach E has a recall for battery replacement I believe. Also, the Ford Focus electric came out in 2011 and definitely has an open recall for battery replacement, and some of those cars are out of the warranty period. The Chevy Volt was exploding and was recalled. If the problem with the battery happens outside the recall the owner is responsible for replacement assuming they can afford it.
Lol, this is what I want thanks for the link so I can send it to my wife hahahaha ;)