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John Fetterman says he'll 'never understand' progressives who refuse to support Joe Biden
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The fact that we can't endorse him without comparing him to the dumpster fire on the opposite side is why we don't like him. If "better than Trump" is all you've got going for you, we might as well vote for a pile of wet socks.
He promised not to upset the capitalist apple cart, and he hasn't. He's not a progressive.
Strong disagree. I've found Biden to far, far exceed my expectations for him. I've been very happy with his presidency, above and beyond the fact that he's not Trump.
That said, I'm curious which specific policies of his you disagree with. I have several, but I'd like to see yours.
Yeah I wouldn't call him progressive by any reasonable definition of the word, but he's helped pass some of the most consequential legislation of our lifetime, and he did it while pulling the economy out of a dumpster fire tailspin and into an improbable soft landing, and also getting us onto the other side of an actual plague. He's been far more effective than I ever imagined he'd be. I didn't vote for him in the 2020 primary, but I'll damn sure vote to reelect him. My only point of contention is that I wish he'd dump Harris and organize a kind of VP primary to pick another running mate. If he dies in office, I worry that she's just not up to the task.
Experience Experience Experience. We needed an adult. We needed someone to come in, clean up a bunch of messes by making some tough calls and not just waiting around for perfect. He’s greatly exceeded that imo.
good lord, how low were your expectations out of the gate?
Pretty fuckin' low. But now I'll enthusiastically vote for him again.
do you not understand that this guy was elected on "he's not trump?"
As someone who's first election being voting age was 2020, he's the best president of my lifetime, that's not a high bar to clear, but he has.
Is there a single Republican candidate that progressives would support over Biden?
I look at it as Biden will pass any progressive legislation given to him; he isn't the problem. Instead, I would look at the tons of legislator positions and ask them what they are doing to be progressive at the state and local levels. Lock those people in so on the next election, Democratic presidential candidates will need progressive support.
And prep the House and Senate so progressive legislation can get passed. Biden has only vetoed 6 bills in office; I don't see him being the logjam for progressive legislation.
Lol no one wants to answer your first question.
Biden doesn’t want to pass progressive legislation, if he had any inclination towards progressive he wouldn’t have stood against union railroad workers.
He’s a right leaning centrist through and through, it’s just that in America that looks “progressive” when we’re used our right wing party being progressively more fascist over the last few decades
The bill he passed went through with a veto proof majority in the Senate and there is no indication he wouldn't have passed the bill to enforce union demands if it got to his desk.
Why not challenge the Democrats in Congress who voted to end the strike?
Biden in the primary:
Biden defenders after Biden can't even get Democratic Senators to support the platform: