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Cops arrest criminals. That's their role. The rest of the justice system handles everything else. It prevents people from commiting additional crimes by locking them up/rehabilitating them. How in this magical society you're envisioning do we stop rape? Do you think rapists are just desperate?
I envy their optimism on humanity.
Realism, perhaps?
Cops show up after the crime. The law and the cops don't prevent the rape. If you want less rapists, you have to address the problem at the systemic level, and that means changing the factors that lead up to rape. What would that entail? Dismantling toxic gender roles, increasing community, enabling access to therapy and mentor programs, giving people hope that they can determine their own futures, creating a safe space for sex workers in society, and other actions that stop the festering hatred and social rot that leads to rape.
That will never happen as long as people like you are satisfied with state sponsored violence to hide the problems in the private-prison-slavery-industrial complex.
You're an idiot. Rich people rape and commit other crimes all the time and they have access to anything they could ever need. Epstein had a goddamn island he flew girls out on his private plane for it. People in countries with better social services and sex workers still experience crime as well.
Not all poverty is monetary. Their wealth is a symptom of a poverty of mind, soul, and conscience.
And you don't blame them for that? Nothing is anyone's own fault? Every moral failing is because of external factors? Or are you just making up bullshit meanings to the word poverty so you don't have to address how wrong you are? Some people are just evil, it doesn't matter what society they're in, they will do evil shit. This is why we need a justice system to identify and dispose of them.
I do blame them for that, and for enforcing a system that worsens their own mental illness. I'm not sure where you got the idea that I'm defending horrific actions.
You have been saying this whole time that it is societies fault that people rape, murder, steal, etc. Now you're saying it's their own responsibility and they are also enforcing the system who's laws they are are breaking?? Do you even read what you're typing?
The only thing questionable is your reading comprehension. Our society exacerbates these problems by addressing everything at the symptom level of punishing individuals, which allows root causes to be ignored. Extreme wealth and extreme poverty are both root causes, but the only people to blame are those with the power to make changes. In other words the rich and powerful. They keep us in poverty and ignorance so they can stay in wealth and ignorance. They're still responsible.
Everyone is responsible for their own actions. Having a shitty life doesn't excuse victimizing others.
Where did I try and excuse it? It happens, and certain circumstances make it worse. You can cry about who should or shouldn't do what or you can make the fucking changes.
Not sure what you think I have the power to change buddy. All most of us can do is be the best we can on an individual level which means not victimizing each other as a start. If someone can't even manage that I don't have a lot of sympathy for them.
You have the power to attack the people responsible with the same fervor that you're coming after me.
The people running shit dgaf about you and I whining on the internet.
The difference is that I'm trying to wake people up to join the conversation and you're drunk on the status quo.
Excusing the actions of murderers, rapists, and thieves isn't the way to do that bud. I'm not drunk on anything, just realistic.
I'm sorry that you're incapable of basic logic and reasoning, but clearly you've wasted too much of my time.
Having said that, the US justice system could use quite some fixing / a complete overhaul. But yeah, you need police. Anyone saying you don't is just living in a fantasy world.
Agreed. There's a ton of room for improvement there and I'm not against helping poor people or anything I just don't think doing so will stop crime. I know of a lot of well off people that have done criminal shit.