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[-] Alpharius@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

China crying when the US does the same thing in return. Why does the CCP act so childish ?

No really why ? They are actively using exported digital and electronics goods to spy on everyone. They try to catch political dissidents outside their borders, spy on several government infrastructures and try to instigate a new form of colonialism in Africa, so what exactly are they crying about ?

I really despise these hypocrites.

[-] muddi@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

This is a bizarre reply. What would be the adult response for China after discovering cyber attacks carried out by the US government?

[-] Alpharius@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago

Their whole political identity is being against the US. Other than that, a more "adult" response would be to not immediately accuse the US of everything bad that happened. Another problem with the CCP is that they refuse to say the truth when it isn't convenient to them, they are not transparent at all on their investigations and sources.

[-] muddi@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

From what I read, it seems like they took over a year to investigate the cyber attack before making their conclusions public.

Also I thought the party line was communism, not anti-Americanism.

To be honest, this here doesn't seem that out-of-place in terms of how a sovereign nation would respond to a cyber attack by another sovereign nation.

[-] huf@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago
[-] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

Their whole political identity is being against the US

kettle

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

they are not transparent at all on their investigations and sources.

God, I just hate when they are completely opaque in their accusations. Good thing they fired Ned Price.

[-] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

a new form of colonialism in Africa

Aka not colonialism.

[-] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

colonialism is when you build bridges and train stations xigma-male

non-colonialism is when you have 50+ military bases scattered across a foreign continent and keep all their cash in your banks and don't allow them to even withdraw it and you assassinate the last 10 democratically elected leaders who tried to change this arrangement nato-cool

[-] zephyreks@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

But you see, bridges and train stations are clearly racist because they're built by Chinese people on time and on budget.

[-] JuryNullification@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

They are actively using exported digital and electronics goods to spy on everyone.

https://www.cnet.com/news/privacy/nsa-reportedly-installing-spyware-on-us-made-hardware/

They try to catch political dissidents outside their borders,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Assange

spy on several government infrastructures

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-security-agency-spied-merkel-other-top-european-officials-through-danish-2021-05-30/

and try to instigate a new form of colonialism in Africa, so what exactly are they crying about ?

https://www.africom.mil/

I really despise these hypocrites.

I’ll save you the trouble and put “Whatsboutism” here so you don’t even have to reply.

[-] zephyreks@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

It's projection. It's clear and obvious projection.

[-] RuthlessCriticism@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This, except its the other way around. The amount of American crying about cyberattacks is crazy given the amount of evidence they have provided.

[-] TheGamingLuddite@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

Chinese foreign policy has rarely deviated from moderate, trade-oriented and relatively apolitical over the past few decades. I think the massive allocation of US taxpayer funds toward negative coverage of China has swayed your opinion to the most hawkish extreme. None of these accusations really exist outside of the anglosphere and HK/Taiwan based Sinophone disinfo networks, however most of them are widely acknowledged as crimes that the US has committed in the very recent past in some capacity.

[-] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

this dude over here really had his "chinabad" switch turned on in 2018 and doesn't even realize it or remember what it was like in the before-fore times

[-] zephyreks@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago

Taiwanese media wasn't even that dedicated to Chinese disinformation up until like 2016 or whatever.

Relations were normalizing across the strait smh.

[-] library_napper 9 points 1 year ago

How about we publish instances of such crimes by all governments and hold all of them accountable?

[-] comr@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

China does not take an interest in spying on the average westerner.

[-] Kaffemannen@feddit.nu 2 points 1 year ago

Well, it's just common sense to treat others the same way you expect them to treat you. In a ~~perfect~~ more pleasant world neither the west or china would feel the need to spy on each other, but we are where we are.

[-] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In a ~~perfect~~ more pleasant world

In a more pleasant world, America would've shuttered its surveillance apparatus and downcycled the embryonic military-industrial complex directly after World War 2, rather than being cartoonishly evil and inventing a new term for a 'propaganda war' with aim to snuff out the one system that presented clear opposition to the oligarchic tyranny of capital; then having a couple dozen courses of dessert stomping out every burgeoning society in the Global South looking to free themselves from the yoke. Instead, America wanted to rule the world; and thus, no one has been allowed to disarm.

Because the death cult won't come to its senses.

[-] Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

It’s for the cameras and their own citizens.

[-] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 1 year ago

This is Sasquatch Timecube territory. Crazy conspiracy theory ranting.

[-] Sasquatch@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I'd like to kindly inform you that our use of Timecubes is well within interdimensional regulations. It's humans who do all the crazy conspiracy ranting, that's entirely on you guys.

[-] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago
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