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Two war crimes dont make a right

[-] Skoobie@lemmy.film 8 points 1 year ago

I apologize if I'm misreading. Are you suggesting that it would be wrong to shoot a Nazi?

After promising safety in exchange for cooperation, and presumably without having convicted them of anything besides their former party affiliation?

[-] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

Von Braun was not just guilty by association he utilised concentration camp slave labout

[-] BillNyeTheCommieGuy@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

yeah Von Braun literally ran some of his rocket research out of a fucking death camp

[-] pingveno@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

A man whose allegiance is ruled by expedience?

[-] Skoobie@lemmy.film -2 points 1 year ago

Ah, now I will admit to there having been a potential nuance. I certainly would want a trial before an execution, for instance. But I also think it would be wrong to assume these scientists were completely morally innocent. Maybe I could be persuaded from my earlier opinion of "You always shoot a Nazi" but there needs to be something to show. A diary entry saying "I'm not sure about this Hitler fella." Something.

[-] Flumsy@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago

Either trial him OR make a deal. You cant make a deal and after getting what you want proceed to trial him.

What you're suggesting is stooping to the level of the nazi cruelty by a complete breach of agreement even after the other party has fulfilled their terms. Also what was that pathetic attempt at baiting the other guy by saying: "aRe yOu SuGgEsTiNg iT iS wRoNg tO sHoOt NaZiS?!!". Like that wasn't even the point of the other guy.

[-] DarkenLM@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

I think many of the scientists weren't Nazis, but rather forced to work for the Nazis, fearing for their and their family's lives. I could be wrong though, it has been a while since I've investigated that matter.

[-] Skoobie@lemmy.film 6 points 1 year ago

To be frank, it would be hard to siphon out truth from fiction at this point from personal accounts. That said, of course I distinguish between a forced Nazi accomplice and a sympathizer. I am not suggesting that they should be treated the same. I am suggesting that the U.S. was so zealous in its efforts to defeat the Russians that it wasn't making distinctions.

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

didn't Hitler get the idea of concentration camps from the US?

I think you are idolizing US in this a bit too much, they weren't exactly much better than the nazis.

I mean I know for sure Eugenics were a popular idea in the US during that time, PoC were treated terribly etc.

[-] Grimble@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The second one makes for one less Nazi. Thus less warcrimes. Dont tell me theres some magical "cycle of hate" you're beholden to, just for putting down a child-killing government operative.

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