Empathy doesn't have to mean letting them do whatever they want. It's the only path to reforming them. I've worked with a young kid with no dad in the process of going down this pipeline. You have to challenge them on what they think they've learned about being a man, but if you don't try to understand how they feel they will just shut you out. Ultimately you can't make someone believe something. So you either give up and label them a lost cause, or you actually try to reach them and convince them person to person.

I think it does help in that we can approach our ridicule of them from a constructive manner.

"Your role models are taking advantage of you."

"At least I don't fail to hide my insecurities behind toxic masculinity."

"You're alone because you choose to be alone."

I mainly feel bad with the young men who are not yet captured but are down that path. I'd like to think it couldn't have happened to me but I had the luxery of going through that time of my life when that stuff wasn't really around.

Though actually I had 4chan at that time and I turned out mostly well adjusted so they're not completely blame-free.