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[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 101 points 1 year ago

I think a lot for the guys that follow these morons and buy into this culture did not have positive male role models growing up, thus turn to media for some guidance.

This does not excuse their conduct or self-delusion, but does explain why it happens.

[-] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.ml 56 points 1 year ago

They are victims as much as they are villains.

[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 28 points 1 year ago

Very much so, which makes it all that more sad.

I'm in no way excusing their villanry, but most are so delusional that they won't ever take a hard look at the way they are and wonder if they could be something else or if they need to change

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[-] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 year ago

They also never grew out of high school mentality.

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[-] GreatGrapeApe@reddthat.com 78 points 1 year ago

Don't forget has never assessed what they have to offer, nor do they make efforts to improve.

[-] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

That’s what most people tend to forget, unfortunately.

[-] GreatGrapeApe@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago

One of the harder moments in my adult life was facing the fact that I had nothing to offer at that time which was why only creepy much older gay men were interested in me as I looked like I was 15 at 25.

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[-] Xel@mujico.org 51 points 1 year ago

My kitchen YouTube feed randomly showed me a "Rachel Zegler criticism" video and I was curious so I put it while cooking.

It was basically a 40 min rant where some YouTuber was showing her hypocrisy because she said Hollywood needs more representation from latinos even though she was acting on a movie as a puerto rican. The video could have been 2 minutes long but I noticed it was mostly the guy criticising every single word she's said and telling you how to feel about it.

I checked YouTube the next day and now it's full of alt right channels, for context I mostly watch veritasium, audit the Audit, science podcasts, dw documentaries, kurzgesagt and some music videos, I rarely watch political stuff on that account and yet now I see Ben Shapiro, Piers Morgan, Andrew Tate, Steven Crowder and the likes, literally my whole front page was just them and my automatic queue would be increasingly alt right shit.

I clicked on not interested and don't recommend this channel and yet I constantly see the videos showing up in the front page.

I think YouTube is heavily pushing this type of content, even if you try to show the algorithm that you are not interested. They probably see that it makes people get more engaged with the platform so they are okay with radicalizing everyone just for profit.

[-] lowered_lifted@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago

You got it. Alt right to Nazi pipeline = increased view time = increased ad revenue. Same with how Facebook ranked content that got people to give it an "angry" react 5x higher in the algorithm than a "like" at one point. Anger/hate drives engagement.

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[-] db2@sopuli.xyz 37 points 1 year ago

The funniest thing about Andrew Tate is he's so obviously overcompensating for being gay. I mean funny weird, it would be funny ha ha if he weren't also a manipulative kidnapping rapist and grifter.

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 28 points 1 year ago

It's like Cosmo and their awful sex tips for women.

Keep them single, they'll keep coming back to you.

[-] jherazob@beehaw.org 17 points 1 year ago

People only offer derision towards people who fall for this (which is absolutely reasonable), but only a few see it as the fucking tragedy it is, no one gives a fucking shit about young men and their issues or gives them support, who are then taken wholesale by THESE bastards and turned into incels and/or nazis, had young men had any support from decent people we might have less people on the side of the bastards

[-] nudnyekscentryk@szmer.info 12 points 1 year ago

bullshit. hating the world is just the easy way out, admitting you yourself are wrong is simply harder.

[-] maltasoron@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've stopped believing that. I think there's plenty of support for them online; people like Mark Manson have been putting out great stuff for years. (His writings helped me through a lot of stuff.)

I think the main problem is that improving yourself requires admitting that you were wrong about some things, and apparently that's really hard to do for some people. Easier to blame it on the rest of society.

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[-] ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 year ago

If the incels could read they'd be very upset

[-] peter@lemmy.emerald.show 16 points 1 year ago

We need a starterpacks community!

[-] Mothra@mander.xyz 16 points 1 year ago

Who are these two high value men (lol) next to Tate and the other one with the selfie?

[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

With role models like this, This guy is a small life crisis away from "can you spare a crumb of pussy" to "does this rag smell like ether"

[-] _bug0ut@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Sneako and his "I'm a little teapot" lookin ass with those goofy ass ears. Holding a dickhead like him or the Tates up as some sort of goal to strive towards is synonymous with "rock bottom."

I get it - like I understand the mechanism behind why some younger dudes become infatuated with these figures. It's the same reason boomer housewives get into the Law of Attraction or why people who don't have a single fucking clue think Trump is going to fix everything if he could just get one more term in office... but I don't get it.

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[-] beteljuice@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

What a bunch of freemales

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

No, these people were always sexist, that's why it's so easy to hook them on this bullshit.

We are all socialised with misogyny (as well as cis-heteronormativity) literally from infancy (and those of us who are directly impacted sadly internalise them to a depressing degree), and that's when we need to start fighting against it, not only once the misogynists turn violent (verbally as well as physically), it's too late at that point (even if they can be deradicalized the damage they did is already done).

[-] PrunesMakeYouPoop@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

That is not necessarily true. People can and do change. Darth Vader was not born evil, after all.

[-] irmoz@reddthat.com 16 points 1 year ago

Darth Vader is not real.

[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 year ago

How insightful PrunesMakeYouPoop

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[-] dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago

Kermit the sexist philosopher.

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