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Diablo 4 Twitch viewership continues to drop as Diablo 3 overtakes it
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Endgame sucks.
Scaling content means there's little power scaling variety, viable builds are very narrow so there's not much build variety, the leveling curve is punishingly slow because they are trying to live service it, and seasons have lame rewards and boring features so far. Dungeon variety is nearly non-existent and poorly randomized with time wasting objective design.
Also it's a Diablo game where none of the endgame content takes place in Hell.
TL;DR: Designing games as a live service means designing around time wasting and anti-player choices.
Agreed. It's a solid game that just gets boring. I enjoyed the campaign and the co-op play. I liked the variety of play of the classes.
But since the launch they've just made the game boring. The first big patch just nerfed every build. It's not a competitive game - they just decided you should have less fun I guess.
Gems are super boring - instead of being excited for them to drop, inactively ignore them. And the first seasons only mechanic is.... fancy gems.
The towns are designed to make you run around a ton. The mount mechanics are actively hostile (maps have areas where you need to dismount to progress, then there's a 10s cool down before you can mount again). Inventory management kinda sucks. The whole loot management part of the game is kinda flat and that's a major component of this series.
It's weird because this was the smoothest launch of a Diablo and the game felt feature rich as you leveled. But the end game is so fucking boring. They have so many things in D3 they could have just copied but instead we'll end up with yet another patch of nerfs in a single player game.
OP builds in a live service game means you spend less time on the daily/weekly/monthly grinds. Saw constant PVE nerfs in Destiny 2.
That's the issue though, there's nothing to grind.
Damn, really disappointing to hear. I felt like D3 was ok but for some reason couldn’t quite match up to D2, and so was hoping that D4 would deliver. But now I know to at least adjust my expectations if/when I finally play.
The first playthrough is great. Open world is awesome.
Just don't expect to get to level 100 and minmax your loot, as you'll almost certainly drop off before then.
What’s a live service?
Basically a game that is designed to receive regular content updates and have revolving meta elements. It’s a game that is designed to not have an end.
Thanks for the explanation.
we are going to be sold Hell. guaranteed
and then they will sell us Heaven, and then they will sell us cow level, then they will sell us whimsyshire, then they will sell us...............