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Hey fair enough. But they are, and they tell me all the time because we talk constantly. It was the Zoomers I could not talk to on Skype/whatsapp/signal/slack ...whatever platform they wanted. So how did I fail to reach them? That's what I am wondering as a manger because, yeah a job is just a job, but it doesn't have to suck, and I as a manager can make it suck much less. It's within my power, but I cannot do the thing if you don't ask for the thing despite multiple attempts. There must be something wrong with how I attempt to engage them.