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People who deny this often collapse anything the us does with other NATO partners into actual NATO actions.
people genuinely stupid enough to believe nato is defensive in nature have never opened a history book outside of their compulsory schooling
In fairness, propagandists write books about history too. It is entirely possible for a person that isn’t very curious to pick up “normie” pop history stuff and think they are learning.
that is true, but frankly i'm willing to put money down on most people who hold patently incorrect beliefs like "nato is a defensive organization" simply being deeply incurious people who have never investigated anything that's not immediately relevant to their interests
That’s probably true, but also quite depressing given the prevalence of the deeply ignorant. Hopefully the average person is better than that.
I believe comments like this are the reason why people want to defederate hexbear.
Self-opinionated, aggressive and insulting, all in a few lines of comment. I can’t deny there’s an art in there, but not one that makes one like the artist.
Is this to contrast with your own opinions which instead of generating yourself, you received from the western media?
i'm gonna go out on a limb here and assume you live in a house with no mirrors
i'm not sorry if my statements give offense when they're based in reality. want to be treated better? we already have a special tool for that, it's called "having correct opinions"
You should engage with the issue instead of tone policing others.
Engage with what, the childish insults?
I tried, carefully. What got as a response was self opinionated, aggressive and full of insults.
then fuck off nerd
"I agree I haven't read any history either"
go ahead and defederate then, dumbass. nobody is benefitting from reading your stupid, obviously wrong takes
Death to America
what the fuck does that even mean? are you just typing shit? this is why people call you names
Lmgtfy https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/self-opinionated
So when you have opinions and you express those opinions. Sounds like you're pretty self-opinionated about certain topics because you've chosen to snarkily quote the dictionary.
so it's like "irregardless"
in other words, yes, you're just saying shit
Among the synonyms: dogmatic, stubborn.
I think that carries an overall appropriate meaning.
you're also "self-opinionated" the only difference is that the opinions you're stubborn about are wrong
Look, I weakly challenged the original commenter on a basis which I actually observed in the real world.
Since then I only was challenged back in the forms of belittling and insults.
Not one word about why NATO would not be a defensive alliance. I left loooots of room for that in my initial response. But no, only insults, and now I am challenged because of the use of a nuanced english word that you people choose to not understand. This is ridiculous.
I was indifferent before, but after this experience I support defederating hexbear.
lmao
read a book you insufferable uninformed dweeb
The last one I read about that told me indeed that NATO did the bombardment in Yugoslavia not for defense, but for a humanitarian clause that it also has in its preamble. I was surprised a bit that they have it in there, and how selective they choose to deploy that.
Nevertheless, in that situation there was foundation enough to understand the reasoning, and they did so only after the UN was not able to get together to effectively do something against concentration camps and genozidal tendencies by what was then Serbia.
Now the people who argue that NATO is an aggressive alliance have arguments like the Iraq war in their portfolio, which very clearly was not a nato operation.
Maybe kindly point me to a book that is worth reading, and I will put it on my list for consideration.
I'd start with anything by Chuck Tingle. Pounded In The Butt By My Own Butt is the classic.
Lol you really kicked the hornet nest
Careful. While funny, you’re running dangerously close to being sucked in.
No. 'This is trolling' is not something trolls get to go 'Ah-HA!' over.