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[-] wccrawford@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago

They deserve their refunds, but...

This is a lesson that you never buy something based on a future promise. Buy it based on what it is, not what someone says it'll be eventually.

[-] Haui@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 year ago

Everyone will call me naive again but how about we actually hold people to their word?

Why is it not illegal for say politicians to say one thing and do the opposite?

If a game studio says „we‘re gonna make the greatest game ever!“ I would like to make them prove it or refund everyone.

You can’t say „contains no nuts“ and put nuts in it, why is there a caveat for other stuff? Just keep to the truth. Why is it so hard to normalize advertising without tons of hyperbole?

(I‘m autistic and I see telling the truth as a good thing. I don’t understand why someone would like to be lied to. Omit something to not hurt them, ok. But outright lying is wrong on a binary level imo. As in not ok ever.)

[-] JowlesMcGee@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

You're right, they should be held accountable. Unfortunately, the easiest and most effective way to hold them accountable for the average person is to not blindly trust them. There just isn't good forms of recourse for us to challenge things like this when it happens, so the best bet is to not preorder things so that they have to prove it is what they say it will be.

[-] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

way too much noise in the average population tho, people are thinking about their entire lives not just what is 100% most correct.

But we do have a system of laws for things like this, but they only work for the rich ofc

[-] Haui@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

I agree. But I also believe that we give up to easily because „thats the way it is“. My point is we should push more in the other direction and try to go binary (right/wrong) as much as possible. If something is morally wrong, it needs to be put into law asap nearly no matter the cost.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

It’s very difficult to draw the line between lying and someone being mistaken

A politician can want to do X then learn it’s impossible

A game can promise X then run out of money before accomplishing it

[-] Haui@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

I agree 100%. In business, you have to prove your innocence when subject to a lawsuit. Same goes for lying imo.

If you ran out of money to keep your promise, you will be able to prove that. Same goes for having to compromise to get some other benefit.

The initial point I was trying to make is that we are so accustomed (imo) to being lied to that we don’t make people prove that they didn’t plan that from the beginning.

For example: where I live, it is common practice to make food pictures for ads or menus that a) dont resemble the final product and b) are made with completely different, often inedible substances to look like a better version of the real deal. Something that an hones picture can never achieve. This needs to be illegal. This is not someone running out of money or compromising but premeditated lying.

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