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An image of the wildfires in Rhodes, taken on July 23rd, showing the flames and the plume of smoke.


Greece, in late July, faced a heatwave in which over 8 million people experienced temperatures about 41C, with some areas reaching above 45C - all in all, both the longest heatwave in Greek history, as well as some of the highest temperatures on record.

Due to these high temperatures, Greece was then struck by hundreds of wildfires this summer, affecting nearly 200,000 hectares. About half of the total burned area was in the north-east of Greece, in the Dadia national park near the city of Alexandropoulis - the single largest blaze that the EU has recorded. Other parts of the country were also struck, such as Attica, Magnesia, and islands like Corfu and particularly Rhodes; the last one prompted an evacuation of 20,000 people, the largest evacuation operation the island had ever seen. Of course, this is just one country of many that have been caught in the European wildfires this year, of which the total burned area approached 500,000 hectares - the only consolation is that this was less than last year.

Greece, Bulgaria, and Turkiye were impacted in early September by flooding caused by massive storms bringing a deluge of water - in Greece, this mainly impacted Thessaly, in the centre of Greece.

Luckily for Greece, despite being a very earthquake-prone country, they have experienced no significant quakes lately to round out the four (I hope I haven't jinxed it) - though, of course, earlier this year, a major earthquake struck nearby Turkiye, killing 60,000 people and injuring 120,000.


The Country of the Week is Greece! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

This week's update is here!

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[-] FortifiedAttack@hexbear.net 62 points 2 years ago

I have a personal theory that Western neoliberals are incapable of caring strongly about a major issue for more than 2 years, after which point it is very likely to be replaced by the next big thing.

This theory is mostly based on how in 2018, Climate Change became a big topic again, which was then quickly substituted by Covid in 2020, which then got substituted by Ukraine in 2022. None of these problems are actually resolved, libs just don't give a shit anymore.

We're due for another focus change in 2024, and I think the presidential elections are going to be part of it.

Because Ukraine cannot survive without strong Western support, this is also why I personally believe that the war is going to end in 2025. By that point, Westeners won't care at all anymore, Biden or Trump will be in their second term and thus don't need to care about optics, and Ukraine's supplies will have dwindled to a critical level.

[-] PosadistInevitablity@hexbear.net 38 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

But this presumes that more military supplies requires public support, when in fact that seems to be almost irrelevant. Afghanistan was widely unpopular for two decades, and it still plodded along for that long.

This isn’t a democracy. The war will end when the elites tire of it, or when the world ends.

[-] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago

Yep, and we only left Afghanistan because fent replaced Opium on the global market and it was no longer a profitable CIA slush fund

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Don't forget the China uighur situation. China eliminated islamic extremism as a vector of attack making it no longer viable to spread it over the border.

[-] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

Yeah the ETIM plan wasn't bearing any fruit and we ran out of local ISIS guys to send in. With that plan stonewalled, and the opium cash flow drying up it really wasn't worth the cost anymore. Only remaining reason was to keep a military foothold near Pakistan, Iran and China but Biden made the decision he was going to pivot to Russia/Ukraine/Europe.

[-] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago

Nothing gets better so they have to move on to the next fad.

Also, Americans stopped caring about Afghanistan in like 2003 and we were there for almost another decade.

[-] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago

I think it depends less on public opinion and more on the careerism of the people involved. At that point, most of the people involved in 'communicating the crisis' will have moved on in their careers towards other NGO's or government positions. The career bureaucrat who never leaves a region is incredibly rare these days and generally not in control of foreign or domestic policy. Of course, I think it's a mix of both.

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago

I think it's to do with the two year election cycle in the US, with the midterms and all that.

[-] ProxyTheAwesome@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It also has to do with libs being really easy to rile up with media, even for contradictory things. They can get super angry about kids in cages then a couple years later be riled up against homeless people and thinking they should be put in cages. They are livestock, going whatever which way the current elite narrative points them. The sheeple thing is a meme but it kinda is true

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