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[-] axont@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

One time I did this with a supposed socialist and he said Cuba didn't count as tankie since they're monoethnic (they aren't). Apparently this person was under the impression socialism is good when it's one ethnicity per society, which doesn't even describe Cuba though. He proceeded to talk about how "tankie countries" are defined by ethnic oppression, examples being Russians oppressing Hungarians or China oppressing the Taiwanese.

I only have an example of one, but I have to believe this is a common ideological underpinning for a lot of confused western leftists

[-] AHopeOnceMore@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Cuba? Monoethnic? Like... if there's one thing people know about ethnicity in Cuba it's the contributions of Afrocubans to the revolution

[-] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Even fucking Batista had Spanish, African, Chinese, and possibly even Taíno descent lmao

[-] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

China oppressing Taiwan

I always ask them how was Taiwan founded, gets flustered immediately :big-honk:

[-] Changeling@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

There’s a lot of truly bizarre opinion on nationalism and ethnicity when it comes to “tankie” and “red fash” discourse. Some streaming had a whole filled diaper moment talking about how anti-imperialist movements in Africa are ethno-nationalists for wanting to kick out their white ruling classes.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

China oppressing the Taiwanese.

Like . . . Indigenous Taiwanese, sometimes called Formosans? Or the pre-civil war Han population or the civil war Han population,?

Does he just think Taiwan is like pre-colonial Hawaii?

[-] autismdragon@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

China oppressing the Taiwanese.

The indigenous people of Taiwan are indeed oppressed

By the Han Chinese majority of capitalist Taiwan

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That's just balkanisation propaganda manifesting itself in this person's racial obsessions and fusing into a special kind of brainworms.

Engaging with these people is about performing for the audience, they are not moveable but audiences are. Everything should be about exposing them so that the point that they are just like the people obsessed with "woke" sinks in. Many of them are secretly the same people too.

[-] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

All Chinese population policies are applied to Han Chinese only. Abortion and other family planning services are readily available in most of China (although they have been rising in cost), but to say that China is an ethnostate denies the fact that most local CPC political parties are dominated by the majority ethnicity in their areas, even if it isn't Han. Now the central national bureau is still dominated by Han, and the lingua franca is Han, but given the federated enforcement nature of CPC governance, to say that minority ethnicities have no power over policy is a vast understatement.

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