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those "hundreds of deps" are part of your flatpak and you will probably be downloading just as much fortunately fast internet is relatively cheap as is storage space and you probably won't notice if it takes 15 seconds more.
Normal packaging systems don't get stuck nor break because you installed more software and its hilarious that you are somehow removing bloat by using a packaging system that calls for you to download the same deps over and over again.
I have 2 flatpaks installed and I already have duplicated runtimes not to speak of the deps themselves that are built into the apps. There is definitely duplication.
If package foo requires runtimev1 and bar requires runtimev1.1 you will end up with installing v1 and v1.1 with similar but not identical files and if another package requires 1.2 and 1.3 and 2.0 then 2.1 eventually you will have a whole lot of libsomethingorother.
It also meets any reasonable definition of bloat
Yes because having firefox in /usr/bin/firefox is trashy and disorganized compared to having it in /home/$USER/.var/app/flatpak/app/org.mozilla.firefox/x86_64/stable/6b73214102d2c232a520923fc04166aed89fa52c392b4173ad77d44c1a8fb51b/files/bin/firefox and running firefox is so much more gross than flatpak run org.mozilla.firefox
Can you like actually hear yourself?
Normal systems that you don't do something extremely creative with don't normally develop conflicts because the packages are literally all designed to work with the same version.
The words " bloating up your actual system and package database." don't actually mean anything except that you don't know what any of those words mean together.
I have used countless distros over 20 years including Arch although right now I'm primarily running Void on my personal computers. "Bloating up the package database" remains a meaningless factor because it doesn't bear meaningfully on real world performance or experience. Your computer doesn't break more or perform worse because you installed more software because this isn't windows.
I take 3 seconds looking at what's updating after I clicked update knowing its incredibly unlikely that anything will break and if it did it would take 30 second to reboot into the snapshot that was automatically created by running the update script.