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[-] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 136 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm getting really sick of these "icons for women in politics" dying from age-related conditions in office.

Every year I watch ~~RGB~~ RBG retroactively destroy her own legacy by having refused to retire when she should have.

[-] oh_so_hazey@sh.itjust.works 67 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] Techmaster@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago

Red, Green, Blue

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 22 points 1 year ago

Well I suppose RGB could have retired under Obama, but we know how McConnell treated Obama's nominees

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

couldn't Obama have made an appointment while the senate wasn't in session or something? i remember reading something like that, the issue with the democrats in the US as an outside observer is that they want to maintain the facade of playing by the rules so they don't do ahit what's required, Obama should have appointed his nominee and then push on RBG to retire and appoint another, as it stands his failure is letting the US slide into fascism

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

You're referring to a recess appointment, in which the President can make certain temporary appointments without Congressional approval when Congress is in recess. But in recent times, even when Congress is technically not in session, the majority party keeps members around to gavel in quick sessions every few days so Congress never officially goes into recess.

Obama made some recess appointments anyway, and the matter is still being litigated. I bet nobody will make a substantive recess appointment until this is settled.

https://gai.georgetown.edu/supreme-court-to-decide-what-constitutes-a-senate-recess/

[-] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago

The process is the justice announces retirement (or dies) and then the president appoints a nominee. Perhaps Obama didn't ask RBG to retire prior to 2014, or she refused. The president can't force a change, but just react to one.

The Republican minority prior to 2014 blocked one of Obama's recess appointments, so after 2014, even had RBG announced retirement, it was probably unlikely that a recess appointment would work. I assume at the time, they figured Clinton would be president in 2016 and that RGB could then retire during Clinton's presidency.

[-] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 5 points 1 year ago

Perhaps Obama didn’t ask RBG to retire prior to 2014, or she refused.

Apparently he didn't outright ASK but he did tactfully raise the issue.

She was stubborn though and just wouldn't do it.

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

Presidential appointments to the Supreme Court still require a congressional hearing and a confirmation vote in the U.S. Senate.

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

Yes, after the recess which it mentions, it goes back to advise and consent. Obama could have forced a committee vote this way, but he would have lost in the end.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Iirc the president can do a temporary appointment. It will last the length of your presidency. But then the next president gets the permanent appointment.

[-] finthechat@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago
[-] grue@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

You have to admit, she was a colorful character.

[-] vamputer@infosec.pub 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah, man. Ruth Gader Binsburg

[-] 1847953620@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Justice Red Green Blue, compatible with any color synchronization program you run on your desktop.

[-] AssPennies@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It better be addressable RGB.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Let's be clear though, she isn't the one causing these evils. That blame lies squarely on Republicans.

I believe there were several things in the last year of Obama's term that should've happened, but because of how sure everyone was that Clinton was going to win, they decided it wouldn't be worth it. I think RBG expected to retire until Clinton. And well, we know how that went.

I also suspect that their personality which led them to becoming trailblazers for women , and refusing to take no for an answer, is why they didn't retire earlier. Their whole thing was not giving into people who didn't want them there. That attitude became detrimental in their old age.

[-] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Blaming Republicans for causing evils is like blaming lions for eating other animals. Of course they're going to. Of course. It's up to Democrats, and all the rest of us, to deal with that.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Of course, but the problem is still the lions, and when we have the opportunity to, we should evict them. It is up to us to be the adults in the room. So just shouldn't forget that our first and foremost goal is to get more adults in here.

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