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Is it speed? Features? Ease of development? Just curious why lemmy is seeing more activity as opposed to other networks.

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[-] Nollij@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

The NSFW stuff was/is a bit more complicated than it might appear on the surface. A lot of instances do not allow NSFW. No judgement, it is what it is. But people on those instances could sub to NSFW communities elsewhere, primarily LemmyNSFW. Less so now, but for a while it was common for those posts/communities to not be tagged NSFW, which caused them to show up on All for people that didn't want to see it.

Then there was the question about types of NSFW content. Even people that enjoy your standard porn categories had lines they didn't want crossed in their feed. Specifically animated/cgi CSAM and scat. The former is illegal in some jurisdictions, and caused a different instance (name withheld) to be widely defederated. The latter was more of an issue with limited tools, but the result was the same- either LemmyNSFW blocks that (at least until better tools are available), or they also get cut off.

[-] Alexmitter@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I am not even speaking about LemmyNSFW and the discussion around what should be allowed on there and the discussion if they allow CSAM or not. It hit me when my favorite furry focused instance got blocked from feddit.de which was my home on lemmy because it has two mild NSFW communities on there. Nothing illegal, nothing legally questionable. Still de-federated.

[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago
[-] Nollij@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Child Sexual Abuse Material, basically the current term for child porn. Nepenthe@kbin.social is completely right on all of it. There is a missing detail that loli (along with a few other questionable/objectionable subs) were banned from LemmyNSFW, and went to a different one that promised to be less restrictive, and is widely defederated because of it.

(Side note: While it can be difficult/impossible to draw the line based on appearances, these were clearly and obviously meant to be depictions of children, and often very young children)

[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

While it can be difficult/impossible to draw the line based on appearances, these were clearly and obviously

Ugh. Why am I not surprised?

I think there's a discussion to be had about questionable porn, like I mentioned in a comment above someone like Piper Perri (of sitting on a couch with black guys behind her meme fame) is nearing thirty. I get that people wouldn't want something featuring an actress like her in their feed because she looks younger, but I also get why people would find it draconian to ban it as she is an adult woman.

But you can't really have a nuanced discussion on where to draw the line, and end up having to err on the side of caution, because of the creeps.

Reminds me a bit of discussing free speech or Israel. There are nuances, and the line is blurry, but nuanced discussion is impossible, because before you know it you're agreeing with someone with a swastika tattoo on his forehead.

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