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I'm 100% positive that even if it included billions for a wall, being able to shoot migrants, and free teens for Geatz to rape it still would have been voted down. They want this shutdown.
Which is incredibly dumb.
Setting aside the damage to the economy and just looking at the politics of it:
"Republicans hate our troops" is an easy attack. Enlisted service members tend to lean right, and stopping their pay (while still requiring them to work) is going to be a bad look. And all the Dems have to say is "hey look at what the Repubs did to our men and women in uniform." Easy win.
It's obvious that the Republicans are at fault for the shutdown. And it's obvious that they're not going to get anywhere. They don't have the votes. When we come out of this with a stupid temporary budget, the Repubs will have won nothing and will look even more incompetent.
It gives the Dems easy talking points, while being difficult to defend by the Repubs. Anyone but Trump would get wrecked in a debate with Biden over this. (Trump never says anything coherent, and no one expects him to, which is a huge benefit in a debate. You simply can't debate him effectively.)
Republicans are shooting themselves in the feet, and it's going to bite them in the ass in the general. It just sucks that this will have lasting repercussions on the economy and the strength of the dollar worldwide...
Republican base voters happily died of covid asphyxiation in the tens of thousands during Trump's administration. They do not know, they do not care.
Those 20, and likely a few more, really do. It's insanity.
I think the fact the Trump is pretty close to the biblical definition of the antichrist is very attractive to a certain percentage of these ding-dongs. They feel they're doing God's work bringing about the end of days.
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That's what I mean, 20% of Americans see that and say "Hallelujah! He's comin' round the mountain!!"
They think if the world ends that means Jesus will show up.
Yeah, the Republicans shouldn't have cut taxes on the rich under Trump. Every Republican Congress has added to the deficit through tax cuts for the wealthy. It's their only policy they never waver on.
To help the deficit, vote for Democrats. Republicans are bad with money and bad for the economy.
I think McCarthy and the more moderate ones don't, they've been saying repeatedly that Republicans get the blame for shutdowns. Their far right caucus though is a bunch of fucking idiots and true believers.
They clearly don't. They are obviously frustrated AF with their "colleagues" because they are increasingly calling them out publicly and by name which is something that I don't recall happening before. There's about 20ish clowns in the HoR that simply aren't going to be happy unless they manage to burn it all down.
McCarthy and his "moderates" could pass the budget (that he already agreed to) with Democratic support.
The only reason he isn't is because he would lose his speakership.
This is down to one person not willing make the sacrifice in order to prevent millions of people from suffering.
They want a shutdown, and they want a recession. Recessions are great for the 1%.