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I was going to stop at americanized policing but I pushed for one more sentence.
America has the worst gang violence in the "western" world. Their methods are proven not to work.
You are wrong
America has the worst gang violence by western standards because of failed social policies. Not its policing, which is not helping for sure admittedly.
Sweden has the some of the worst gang violence in Northern Europe now, yet has excellent social policies. Which aren't exactly shrinking? So why is the gang violence getting worse?
Because there is money to be made. And officer banan is not equipped to deal with someone from either a multi national crime family, or a middle eastern militia using sweden as a training ground.
Sometimes cops need a Damm pansarvagn and if you disagree that's OK, I wish they didn't either.
America's has a lot of reasons contributing to their gang violence. We shouldn't need a stronger police force to deal with gang violence, americanized policing doesn't work. Compare recedivism rates, compare population incarcerated, compare length and conditions of incarcerations.
The money argument is separate and not at all what you are arguing for, if it was you'd be here talking about legalisation not extreme prejudicial policing.
We need early prevention measures, strong social safety nets creating a path to becoming a part of the community. And we need to remove money as an incentive.
What part of my post made you think we need "extreme prejudicial policing" lol wtf.
That definition would be cops murdering peeps in the street because he might be a drug dealer. Aka the phillipines death squads. Is the only example that comes to mind other than tribal execution militias.
Im am saying, swedish police need more "militirized" equipment. Mostly armored apcs, cause if you've ever been shot at, cops wanting one goes from being "oh my god cops dont need tanks" to "it only stops small arms fire?"
And more importantly they absolutley also need "military grade" (lol) surveillance equipment and training. The current gangs who are trying to solidify their control over the growing swedish drug and scam market, often have had their leadership professionally trained by various nation-states official military/defense apparatus.
It's a real problem, that's growing at an exponential rate.
And ofc we need early prevention measures!? I specifically mentioned in my first post that the US has both bad policy and heavy handed policing. Sweden according to you has good policy and better policing?
Then why is the problem getting worse at an exponential rate?
Oh man you called for American policing and hen said it is heavy handed, you don't know what you want you just know the viewpoint you want to hold and to convince others to have without having the knowledge to get people to share that view point.
I have no interest in having a discussion with someone calling for militarised policing ie American style law enforcement.
Yeah, I want heavy handed policing regarding organized crime in Sweden.
Wtf about that is hard to understand?
Then why say all that lol?