140
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] pisstoria@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean, the "Civilopedia" entries for both is very lib, so that's probably part of it. The numbers they cite in Civ IV are ~20 million deaths under Mao as well as claiming "up to 10 million dead" in an "engineered famine" under Stalin. In an interview, the original creators said they primarily did all of their research in the children's section of the library, so that's probably at least part of the reason for The Black Book of Communism-esque figures. Thankfully, despite eating enough of an anti-communist buffet for an entire kindergarten, they managed to have just enough sense not to put Hitler in any of the games to my knowledge. Even in the baked in WW2 mod for Civ IV, they replaced him in with Franz von Papen(still a fascist piece of shit ofc, but way less name recognition).

edit: this is just the tip of the iceberg really. reading the Civilopedia after getting back into Civ IV has given me psychic harm. The Stalin section is thoroughly packed to the brim with all of the dumb tropes we've gotten used to debunking. I'd make a separate post about it if I could find the text files to quote more easily.

[-] BrezhnevsEyebrows@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

God I had no idea it was that bad. Just saw them in the game and thought oh that's cool.

Still makes me wonder though if they really truly believe that Stalin and Mao are 500 gazillion dead why put them in the game?? Its so baffling

this post was submitted on 30 Sep 2023
140 points (100.0% liked)

games

20529 readers
394 users here now

Tabletop, DnD, board games, and minecraft. Also Animal Crossing.

Rules

founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS