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Sept. 30 (UPI) -- Elon Musk is under fire after publicly backing a far-right political party in Germany, suggesting the current government should not be re-elected over its position on the current migrant crisis in Europe.

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[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Would the Russia and China far right connections and actions then be happenstance in that hypothesis scenario and how could they be explained to be unrelated?

[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

Russia and China are irrelevant because their interests in Western economies are tertiary at best: it neither affects them ideologically nor economically.

Whether Western governments buy Russian oil is entirely independent of what government it is. Whether Western governments buy Chinese manufactured products is entirely independent of what government it is. There's this puffed up sense of Western self-importance that doesn't really exist: Russia and China both see that the future of global economic growth will be in the Global South and are allocating resources appropriately.

In contrast, the International Democratic Union (and similar organizations) have a strong ideological reason for backing right-wing parties and a stronger personal reason to do so: it nets them more funding from corrupt corporations looking for tax breaks and decreased regulation.

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I like your pondering.

I have some notes with this theory

There's this puffed up sense of Western self-importance that doesn't really exist: Russia and China both see that the future of global economic growth will be in the Global South and are allocating resources appropriately.

In addition to each northern superpower abusing the hemisphere, they do fight for influence between the northern smaller ones – the aforementioned propping of accelerationist and/or reactionary movements being one way amoug the trade ones you focused on.

IDU is a good example, while it seems to be just one path to the efforts

[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

What's the purpose, though? China and Russia hardly need to touch it, because it's the direction that US money is flowing anyway.

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

What's the purpose of US/China/Russia influencing others? Destabilization, dependancies, just to gain power for immediate or later use purposes? It's a mighty big question that'd summarize the whole history of geopolitics. Always been happening in different forms I guess.

[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What power have China and Russia gained? China is decoupling from the West and Russia is doing so as well.

The evidence points to the fact that China and Russia don't need to deal with politics in the West.

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Why do they then do deal and interfere if they don't need to? Is it a distraction towards the US?

[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

They don't. They literally give no shits.

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

However it is known that they all do. It's hard to deny something that's happening

[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago
[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Ah maybe everyone is just having a mass hallucination event. Now I know better, thanks

[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Where are your sources? You made the claim lol

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's like asking sources for everything that has happened ever. I said you already converted with your secret proof. We don't need to consider what the world knows — or thought they knew, you're convincing enough

[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

So... You don't have sources? You've basically said everything is a source and yet can't provide a single one.

[-] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Didn't you read? Your word is good enough

[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago
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