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Oh wow that's very extreme. Shock collars are terrible when the shock setting is what is used. I've seen people use the collars that make a beep and use that for training, but I am not one for that either. I tried the beep with my beagle and he didn't care.
My yard isn't fenced, but I plan on getting it fenced as soon as I can. Both my goldendoodle and beagle will benefit greatly from it. They have nice and sturdy tie outs right now, but those only let them do so much playing outside.
I do not regret my decision to get her or my beagle despite my goldendoodle being a menace andy beagle being the loudest and neediest creature on the face of the planet. They're my babies. I'm never having human children, so my dogs and other critters (2 cats and 11 ducks) are my kids.
Yeah, I definitely forgot to mention that they haven't had to use the shock feature yet. That's my bad.
I'm glad they haven't used that feature. The beep feature is honestly not that bad in my opinion of used as a kind of command. Idk what word would work best. My mom used the beep function with her great Dane/german shepherd to get her attention when she wouldn't recall. It'd get her to focus enough to listen to commands. My mom didn't even have to use it for more than 3 months.
E-collars can be used but only as part of a specific training regimen, and only on lowest setting the dog responds to. They shouldn't just be left on all the time and used whenever the dog is doing something bad. Positive reinforcement works way better than negative reinforcement, but sometimes a bit of negative is needed along with the positive.
The only negative stuff I do is tell my dogs no in a stern voice. My beagle has bad anxiety and was clearly abused in the past, so I don't want him to regress to the state he was in when I got him. That wouldn't be good for me or the rest of my critters.
That's totally reasonable. Negative reinforcement is almost never necessary. I was just pointing out that it can be helpful if used sparingly. Just be aware though, attention is reinforcement, so if you are ignoring your dog when it wants attention, then it acts out and damages something, then you come over to scold it, your dog has learned that acting out will get your attention.
As a dog trainer I worked with previously put it: "the opposite of 'reward' is not 'punishment', it is 'no reward'"