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McCarthy out as speaker
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I'm curious why you find it funny? What is your proposal for the government to move forward without the speaker?
I'm the anarchist and I don't find that kind of chaos funny.
You’re laughing? A soulless politician sacrificed every ounce of his dignity to become Speaker of the House only to be fired by Matt Gaetz, famous sex pervert, and you’re laughing?
That's the republican party. Yeah, I'm usually laughing. They're assholes, racist, fascist, closeted and generally full of shit.
Doing absolutely nothing but arguing would be the best thing they could do for anyone.
Both of those politicians are duly elected representatives, of the same party.
A) If the people wouldn't want to be represented by a soulless, friendless husk or a notorious sex pervert, they wouldn't have voted for them. Obviously a lot of people see that as an appropriate representation of their values and world view.
B) Them sabotaging eachother is actually democracy at work, representing their constituents will in the governing of the collective resources and issues that face the nation. Otherwise, they would be impeached or at least not re-elected.
This is the government the Republican voters want and continue to vote for.
It just happens to be hilarious as it plays out like a farce, we're only a few poop jokes away from getting cultural grants.
Republican voters want The Jerry Springer Show, Gubmint Style. And they got it. Thanks, assholes.
The House is such an interesting part of our Democracy; it's where local issues collide with national interests. While
isn't a small number of people, it seems like a tough argument to suggest that this small smidgen of Florida represents the will of 'the people'. However, what it ought to do is underscore the importance, nationwide, of participating in the electoral process.
I think the extent to which that will happen largely depends on how the rest of this process plays out, but for the time being, I'm content to sit back and laugh at the absolute shitshow as it develops.
You sure you're an anarchist? I'd think that the failure of the US government would be a key point in developing local communes. It kind of forces self determination on folks.
Going by their comment history, they are not an anarchist.
Also an anarchist. People in the US (and in most places) aren't ready for the government to collapse on them. Not in the sense that they're "not evolved enough" or anything like that, just that there's work that would need to be done that mostly hasn't been done yet.
The state is an exploitative organization, but it does perform some legitimate functions that people rely on. Anarchists have ideas on how to replace those functions, but it's ideally the sort of thing you prepare well in advance, rather than throwing together in a panic at the last minute. A slow decline would be preferable.
I'm of the opinion is only through shocks or actual crisis that you'll see that sort of organization. You either have folks gearing for a civil war like the Spanish anarchists or you develop something because it's obvious the system is fundamentally broken (zapatistas, though they're not quite anarchist). I'm not an anarchist though, just a demsoc.
Yep, I'm sure, my perfect world would be all voluntary communities.
But, I happen to live here, people I care about live here, an unplanned descent into chaos is not high on my list of things to live through.
Oh no, whatever will we do without a speaker?! Everything was working so well up until now. Lmao.
You are not an anarchist.
The government was struggling to move forward with the speaker they had... it sucks that this kind of chaos is occurring, but it's hardly a new thing. It's been escalating for years. It's just this time it bit one of the perpetrators in the ass.
No reason to feel bad for McCarthy. The entire reason he was able to be voted out so easily was because of concessions he had to make with Gaetz and co to get the speakership in the first place.
Had he compromised and worked with the conservative/centrist Democrats, he wouldn't be nearly as weak as he ended up being.
He compromised with a child sex trafficer, and this is what he got.
I don't believe you.
You’re not much of an anarchist then. I think hierarchies falling over is as hilarious as it is predictable
How is this chaos any different from when he was still speaker? He took us to the edge of a shutdown just days ago. The chaos has already arrived my friend. At least now their incompetence is on full display and will potentially kill any chance for a majority in the next election.