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Do they forgot about the meaning of the world "RIGHTS"? Doesn't feel very legal to lock users rights behind a paywall.
The thing is, using Facebook isn’t a right. They can charge for whatever, whenever, however they want. You agree to this when you sign up/access the site. You have the choice not to use it.
That’s what gets me with these comments/complaints. (Not trying to be mean). You don’t have to use facebook/Twitter/instagram etc. And the fact that people keep using these kinds of websites is beyond me, especially when they try to pull this kind of bs.
Facebook and Instagram, sure. But plenty of people are more or less forced to keep WhatsApp either because of people they want to be able to message that refuse to use anything else, or perhaps even because they need to be in some WhatsApp groups e. g. for work.
Communication platforms aren't like web browsers or operating systems where you can switch at will to whatever else works for you, you're more or less reliant on everyone you know also making the switch.
Exactly. Not to mention that, even if you don’t use Facebook, instagram, or WhatsApp, your data will still be hoovered up by Meta because someone who has your contact saved in your phone will inevitably allow one of those apps to see all your contacts.
Still doesn’t make it a right just because you feel forced into it lol. And yes, there are other alternatives out there, they just might not be very popular…
What I was refering when I said rights is the right to decide whether if they should use my private info or not.
It’s a private website. You give up your rights when accessing the site. If you want to keep your right to your info, don’t use the site…
I think they collect and use your information even if you don't use the site though. Isn't that still true?
That is true. However, the only way they’d get that info is if you made it public to begin with.
Like getting your cell phone number from a person’s contacts. You had to give that number out to begin with. You should have no expectation of privacy after that. Unless you specifically told your friend/whoever you gave it to, not to. Then that would be on them when they accepted the terms to the site, not the website itself.
(I do want to reiterate that I don’t support what these kinds of companies do at all.)
Thats not how the law works, and the law is above any corporation. At least this is still true in Europe. So if the law states that I dont need to give up any rights, then I... Dont need to give up any rights
Yes this would only be in the US. I should’ve put that in one of my earlier comments… thanks for the clarification. Also, while we are at it, I should add do your own research too. I am just a rando and this is my general understanding of how shit works over here. Laws could even vary on state level that I’m not aware of too.
Another thing I’ll add (I can’t edit in Artemis), I didn’t realize it was an EU article to begin with. So that was a big overlook on my part.
You can decide.
You can decide not to use their products.