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[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

couldn't people tunnel under this, seems like it wouldn't go more than two or three feet deep

[-] Ericthescruffy@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're overthinking it. Penn and Teller are libertarians and problematic at their best but way back in the early 00s they demonstrated the stupidity of the wall pretty straightforwardly. They went and hired a bunch of contractors to build a small portion of the proposed border wall and then offered a bonus at the end to the first team to get around it.

One team tried digging under it. One team tried climbing over it. One team tried breaking a hole through it.

The team who put a hole straight through it won handily.

Chuds and advocates of the full length border wall will say "well the actual wall will have armed guards"...but that's just fucking nonsense and ignores the simple fact that you're talking about a length of distance where it's just completely unfeasible logistically to have guards stationed across the entirety of it. There are going to be fucking gaps with the main focus being on the central roads.

All of this is beside the fact that statistically at least half of undocumented immigrants enter the country with legal visas. It's just a collosal waste of money done purely out of spite and fucking racism.

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

okay so basically you just need one guy with a battery-powered angle grinder

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Arming a border wall would be a logistical and executive undertaking akin to a war.

That's 1500 miles of wall much of which is I'm seriously remote areas.

Are these border guards doing deployments, staying at the wall for extended periods because then you also need the infrastructure to house 10s of thousands of people in o e of the lease hospitable places on earth.

So seems like having them do extended stays is a nightmare so is it a day job?

Who's going to transport those tens of thousands of people needed every shift through the middle of the desert? That's really increasing your headcount too and massively complicating logistics.

Are you driving though the middle of the desert and taking half the shift shuttling people to and from the wall? Or are you gonna undertake the largest infrastructure project in history and build massive highwa6s along the wall so you can get your ss soldiers where they need to be. If you're going to build all that highway are you also going to patrol all of it because otherwise you've just built a literal highway from the wall back to cities so anybody could easily pick somebody up in a car and use the thousands of miles of new roads to avoid people.

Literally thinking about any aspect of it for 2 minutes and you come up with a dozen reasons why it's a shit idea.

[-] h3doublehockeysticks@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

reintroduce 👏 the 👏 limitanei👏

Or fuck it, go full foederati, hire mexicans to guard the border.

i mean, it's also patrolled by armed thugs of the state. that's a pretty big part of border security.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

They've got drones with cameras that can see distressingly long distances, various sensors at popular corssings, shit like that.

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