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[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because Texas really needed help at getting more fascist

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

maybe-later-honey if we can portray the other side as "too extreme", and help them do that, then we win.

maybe-later-kiddo It's "pragmatic" strategy sweetie. Trust the liberalism

[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Dems when asked to do good thing: umm there are laws sweaty we can’t do anything maybe-later-kiddo

Dems when doing bad thing: what do you mean that’s illegal? I just made it legal, jack whywhywhywhywhy

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

We oppose building the orphan crushing machine but now the money has already been earmarked to build one we have to do it. Otherwise the money would be wasted!

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Literally how the defense spending works

amerikkka

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago
[-] Owl@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

This is a major win for progressive principles; Drumpf would have had to waive at least 30 federal laws if he was the one building the wall.

[-] dditty@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Harm reduction 🤮

[-] AlpineSteakHouse@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

This man literally could have said, "Well you can't build it because the it would violate federal law so I guess it'll have to be used to create checkpoints for asylum seekers."

[-] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

Next time I get pulled over for a speeding ticket I'll let the cop know that I didn't violate the law, I just waived it so there's no issue.

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

I'm sure libs will spin this as a super progressive move somehow.

[-] underisk@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago

From what I’ve seen they’re focusing on the “budget already allocated, nothing could be done” argument and just completely ignoring the part where something was in fact done, but not to prevent it.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

brump Blue MAGA logic right there Jack

[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago

Even if it was a contractual thing, it would've been better to breach the contract, pay damages, and not build the wall. Monsters.

[-] dditty@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Exactly what's so shitty about this. The MF waived 26(!?) laws to get this to go, just because the money was there? The hell?

[-] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

So if you have an angle grinder or something..?

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Or a battlebot.

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

By the way those laws they mention are things like the clean air and clean water act.

For the people who like to pretend libs give half a shit about the environment

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Biden will cite this during his 2024 campaign to try to woo Republican voters

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Lovin this rule of law system where nothing can happen except what the rules say!

[-] Sasuke@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

it will be the most progressive border wall in american history

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

couldn't people tunnel under this, seems like it wouldn't go more than two or three feet deep

[-] Ericthescruffy@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're overthinking it. Penn and Teller are libertarians and problematic at their best but way back in the early 00s they demonstrated the stupidity of the wall pretty straightforwardly. They went and hired a bunch of contractors to build a small portion of the proposed border wall and then offered a bonus at the end to the first team to get around it.

One team tried digging under it. One team tried climbing over it. One team tried breaking a hole through it.

The team who put a hole straight through it won handily.

Chuds and advocates of the full length border wall will say "well the actual wall will have armed guards"...but that's just fucking nonsense and ignores the simple fact that you're talking about a length of distance where it's just completely unfeasible logistically to have guards stationed across the entirety of it. There are going to be fucking gaps with the main focus being on the central roads.

All of this is beside the fact that statistically at least half of undocumented immigrants enter the country with legal visas. It's just a collosal waste of money done purely out of spite and fucking racism.

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

okay so basically you just need one guy with a battery-powered angle grinder

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Arming a border wall would be a logistical and executive undertaking akin to a war.

That's 1500 miles of wall much of which is I'm seriously remote areas.

Are these border guards doing deployments, staying at the wall for extended periods because then you also need the infrastructure to house 10s of thousands of people in o e of the lease hospitable places on earth.

So seems like having them do extended stays is a nightmare so is it a day job?

Who's going to transport those tens of thousands of people needed every shift through the middle of the desert? That's really increasing your headcount too and massively complicating logistics.

Are you driving though the middle of the desert and taking half the shift shuttling people to and from the wall? Or are you gonna undertake the largest infrastructure project in history and build massive highwa6s along the wall so you can get your ss soldiers where they need to be. If you're going to build all that highway are you also going to patrol all of it because otherwise you've just built a literal highway from the wall back to cities so anybody could easily pick somebody up in a car and use the thousands of miles of new roads to avoid people.

Literally thinking about any aspect of it for 2 minutes and you come up with a dozen reasons why it's a shit idea.

[-] h3doublehockeysticks@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

reintroduce 👏 the 👏 limitanei👏

Or fuck it, go full foederati, hire mexicans to guard the border.

i mean, it's also patrolled by armed thugs of the state. that's a pretty big part of border security.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

They've got drones with cameras that can see distressingly long distances, various sensors at popular corssings, shit like that.

[-] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

okay now they can just dismiss the laws at will

funny how that works

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

The USA: China bad

Also the USA: We're gonna build a giant wall

China: Bro, we fuckin' tried that.

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