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Palestinian uprising on a scale not seen in 50 years just started
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Okay but the problem is that maiming people and destroying their homes is wrong, and that Israel has a disproportionate amount of power in order to do so on a far larger scale.
To where? What about the ones who are born in Israel and grew up there? What is it that you actually expect to happen to Israeli civilians, and why do you believe that historical injustice is an excuse to inflict more harm?
its not historical injustice, it is current injustice. the IDF has been consistently murdering Palestinians for years, to this day.
send them back to fucking europe obviously, or do you think continuing a genocide because muh history is ok or something? europe can afford to build them housing lmao, they created this problem in the first place.
You don't get points for trying to be unrealistically civil with apartheid occupiers who think you're subhuman. The ones who literally cannot stand to be in your filthy presence without you being legally subject to their racial hierarchy will fuck off back to a country that coddles poor oppressed loser racists like some Rhodesian's did.
The rest will stay and become a real part of the land, rather than a vicious, poisonous tumour growing over and consuming it.
Thats literally all i want in the end. Israelis and Palestinians living alongside each other in peace, but I don't see how that can come from supporting attacks on civilians, or from saying that they're gonna be made to "go home" - people are saying that ALL the Israelis will be forced to leave, even though ALL Israelis includes black people and other non-Europeans.
that's all i want in the end. Colonizers and slaves living alongside each other in peace, but i don't see how that can come from supporting attacks on civillians, or from saying that they're gonna be made to "go home" - people are saying that ALL the Colonizers will be forced to leave, even though ALL Colonizers includes black people and other non-Europeans.
You see, if I rob you at gunpoint and give your stuff to my friends and family as gifts then you can't take it back.
Two wrongs don't make a right. Taking your stuff back would just be robbing innocents!
The people of Palestine are seemingly stronger willed than you.
Our opinions on that don't matter.
You see the exact same arguments that you're making when it comes to landback movements. Where do all the settler colonists go? In states like the US or Canada they've just been far more deeply entrenched with hundreds of years of oppression. You have people crying about if we do landback that the native populations will genocide all settler colonists. We're watching the equivalent of the indigenous uprisings in the the Americas happen across the globe in real time as the Israel settler-colonial state is still in the genocide portion of their settler-colonialism. The US doesn't need to have dirty genocides anymore since it's already been done, they get the cleaner genocide of keeping native populations poor and desperate. Would you say that the indigenous peoples of the Americas shouldn't've fought back when they were being destroyed? That killing civilians is a bad thing when those civilians were actively destroying them by not only stealing their homes but by also supporting the absolute devastation of an entire nation while dehumanizing them all?
Just because the genocidal state of Israel can do far worse back should mean that they just lie down and get crushed to death? They have every right to stand up and defend themselves from a regime that has and will continue to destroy them. The ones born there could take up arms and join the Palestinians to fight for their freedom and live in a unified state. Jewish people lived in Palestine before, they can still. The issue is that with a settler colonial state enacting genocide there's only one option for the oppressed, and it's to violently resist because all other avenues have no effect on stopping them.
The settlers need to be arrested and put to labor if they chose to go there and contribute to it and for the ones that are children or couldn’t leave due to economic reasons should be deported to Europe