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During covid times I heard many interesting conspiracy predictions such as the value is money will fall to zero, the whole society will collapse, the vaccine will kill 99% of the population etc. None of those things have happened yet, but can you add some other predicitons to the list?

Actually, long before covid hit, there were all sorts of predictions floating around. You know, things like the 2008 recession will cause the whole economy to collapse and then we’ll go straight to Mad Max style post-apocalyptic nightmare or 9/11 was supposed to start WW3. I can’t even remember all the predictions I’ve heard over the years, but I’m sure you can help me out. Oh, just remembered that someone said that paper and metal money will disappear completely by year xyz. At the time that date was like only a few years away, but now it’s more like 10 years ago or something. Still waiting for that one to come true…

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[-] Raxiel@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

No, but they do go soft long before they melt.
It's a funny one that one because it's technically true! Jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to liquify structural steel, but it's also irrelevant, because a fire in a steel frame building doesn't have to burn hot enough to do so in order to bring about collapse.

[-] redballooon@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

That’s clear to me. What’s not clear is what the story of unmelted steel is supposed to point at.

[-] Raxiel@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Well the claim is that the government carried out a planned demolition of the towers after arranging the impacts in order to justify all the post 9/11 curbs on freedom and trillions in war spending in the middle east.

They claim this because they believe the collapse couldn't have been due to an airliner almost full of fuel crashing into the building, the explosion blasting the spray applied fire protection from the steel truss beams supporting the floor (where they weren't already destroyed by the impact itself) causing them to buckle after the crash but before the fire rating predicted, dumping several floors would of debris on the first undamaged floor below overloading it and starting a cascade to the bottom, all of this in a building that was designed with most of its rigidity in the outer skin, restrained from buckling via the tensile strength of the floors that were collapsing.

Because the steel didn't, and couldn't have melted.

[-] redballooon@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I think it’s the other way around: they are convinced that the government did it and look for reasons why to support the tale.

[-] Raxiel@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

That's what I mean to say, they think the government did it, and the fuel is a gotcha, willfully ignoring the reasons it isn't.

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