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Why is this comment being downvoted?
Because people don't understand that violence is necessary at times.
When you're violently oppressed for decades while exhausting all peaceful options it gets to a point where you only have violent options left. Especially when the actual govt does fuck all to help you.
I agree in general but not THIS. Kidnapping, raping, and murdering random civilians, besides being monstrously evil, does not accomplish any goals.
When you're cornered with no options, do you lay down and give up, or do you lash out indiscriminately without worrying how it will look or stop to rationally assess whether it will help?
You can't take away people's other options and then blame them when their reactions gets increasingly extreme, because doing so inherently favours the oppressors.
Yeah I can.
Hamas attacked IDF soldiers - regrettable, but it's war. No one is really talking about that.
Hamas did these acts of indiscriminate barbarism - total condemnation. And rightly so. These are war crimes, and sickening ones.
They are war crimes.
At the same time it's unreasonable to believe this won't be the consequence eventually when you impose apartheid and carry out war crimes for decades.
As long as Israel maintains its illegal occupation and maintains it's apartheid, and continue their own war crimes (including settlements - annexing occupied land is a war crime as well) it's sheer hypocrisy to focus on the Palestinians desperate response, the same way it was when some focused on ANCs bombings of civilians rather than on the systematic oppression that created the situation in the first place.
Blaming the victim for punching the bully back is indirectly defending the bully, who in this case has a far higher death toll on their conscience.
You call that poor scared murdered girl a bully?
I called Israel a bully, and you know that full well.
And the far larger numbers of poor scared murdered children they've left behind makes me unwilling to blame anyone but the occupier and the perpetrator of apartheid who has created the situation in the first place.
In other words, if you blame anyone but Israel for what happens in this conflict, you're part of perpetuating the situation causing this.
Why can't we blame everyone who has murdered innocent civilians? Why do we have to blame one of the sides that has murdered innocent civilians, and hold the other side that has murdered innocent civilians blameless?
I blame all of the brutish, sadistic murderers on both sides. They're all terrible.
Because one side creates the situation and is the sole party with the power to end it, and the other side is in an utterly desperate situation stripped of other realistic means of fighting back, and it's unreasonable to hold the oppressed and the oppressor to the same standard because that inherently favours the oppressor.
And because it's wildly hypocritical when most of us live in countries that actively supports the oppressor and takes no step to stop it.
That doesn't mean it's not awful, and a war crime, but the blame lies on Israel for each and every death on both sides as long as they maintain their apartheid regime and their illegal occupation.
That is fucking unhinged
Abuser theory. "Look at what you made me do!"
The abuser in this case being Israel, and its decades of crimes, yes, Israel loves that excuse when the Palestinians fight back
I'm going to block you now, given that you choose insults as a response to pointing out Israeli war crimes and decades of human rights abuse. Talking of "unhinged", I've also reported your vile personal attack.