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They're going to eliminate the threat. Which is going to mean hundreds or thousands of deaths. But Hamas knew that. They hide behind civilians to try to make Israel kill them, so they can get more recruits. It's an intentional strategy. I'm not really interested in people both sidesing this. It's a dishonest tactic intended to excuse the actions of monsters.
I have many criticisms of Israel, but they do not wish a genocide. Hamas does. There is no both sides. Hamas must be eradicated, and if the Palestinians won't do it, Israel will, and the Palestinians in Gaza will have no one to blame but themselves for all the pain that process will involve.
In the same breath you're expecting Israel to cause thousands of civilian deaths you talk about how it's wrong to excuse the actions of monsters. At best we can hope the "kills thousands of civilians" is bundled up in your tidy "I have criticisms".
Hamas is ultimately causing those deaths by forcing the war and then hiding among civilians. It's unfortunate that Israel doesn't have magic powers and cannot eliminate these monsters without civilian casualties, but the only way for the Palestinians in Gaza to be free from threats caused by Hamas is to kick Hamas out.
Shit sucks, I get it, but life is a bitch and if you support terrorists you can't be surprised if the people they attack don't just bend over and take it up the ass.
The exact same words could be applied to Israel.
Nah. They don't support genocidal terrorists. If Israel wanted a genocide against Palestinians, it would happen.
They're engaged in terror and are actively engaged in ethnic cleansing. That it's a slow grind rather than a fast act that would shock the world doesn't change what it is.
Israel's doing a terrible job of ethnic cleansing, then. Lmfao
What a stupid comment.
Check population numbers of Palestinians and Israeli Arabs
Thanks for proving you have no idea what genocide actually means.
An attempt to eliminate a racial or cultural group of people, generally via either forced deportation or killing.
Since neither Israeli Arabs or Palestinians are seeing population declines, there's no attempt at genocide going on.
I didn’t mean the google definition. I mean the definition used within political science (which I have a degree in) that is used to distinguish war from genocide. I was hoping you’d assume as much but disappointed again. There has been a decline in fertility rates in Palestinians in Gaza, West Bank, and Palestine. Furthermore there has been a decline in education of the same groups as well as a large difference in COVID response when compared to Israelis. These are just a few examples of what educated people talk about when they speak about the beginnings of genocide of the Palestinian people.
"Not the actual definition, MY definition!"
No I literally explained. The definition and criteria through political science. Not the laymen’s definition. Laymen.
So not the actual definition, you mean one you made up
Nope. I explained in my comment. The one used in political science, not the laymen’s definition. However by all means continue to be wrong, it doesn’t matter to me if you can’t wrap your head around what’s going on.
Uh huh okay
And what is this definition of genocide which you feel Israel meets
You aren’t very clever dawny, my comment gives three examples. Limiting education, healthcare, and therefore fertility. All are part of the larger criteria for a violent conflict being more than just a war, but a genocide. Change your name to Laymendawny.
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Israel doesn't occupy Gaza. If their healthcare and education is limited, it's by their own government. Which is Hamas.
And, also, even if what you said WAS true, reducing education tends to INCREASE fertility, Mister "I have a political science degree"
You are just making shit up. Education decreasing does not increase fertility. Nor is hamas the Palestinian government. Why do people insist on talking out their asses about things just to look to be knowledgeable on a subject.
Although you are right. This is something I have a degree in so yes I will correct people spreading misinformation. I’m not some guy with an opinion. I’d love to talk to you about something you have a degree in. It’s clearly not this.
You don't have a degree in political science if you don't know basic shit like the fact that Hamas is the Gazan government.
At best, you did poli sci 101.
we weren’t talking about the Gazan government were we? We were talking about the Palestinian government. Two completely different things. Work on your reading comprehension. I think this is more than just laymendawny…dummydawny has a ring to it though no? It just fits.
Why would we talk about a government that doesn't control Gaza lmfao
Just admit you don't know what you're talking about
What kind of people live in Gaza? Palestinians. You can talk about whatever you want. I’m talking about the government representing the people who have been forced to live in Gaza. It’s really not that hard to follow what I’m saying. Is English your first language?
I feel bad for people that know you in real life. Lemm.ee’s most insufferable smoothbrain.
The government which represents Gaza is Hamas. Fatah doesn't control Gaza.
it doesn’t seem like you know what criteria makes something a genocide. Either that or you are just bias.
Lmao