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my partner who is in trade school right now was suprised to overhear a conversation where some guy was like "i used to support israel but.." and then had a bunch of good, pro-palestine takes. everyone there generally agreed with him. sure it's anecdotal but really makes me wonder how much of this is pure astroturfing and manufactured consent. also today my co-worker also felt me out a bit and then had good takes of his own about the situation.
Israel puts a huge effort into astroturfing, like really massive, and most major social media in the US either has former CIA/State Dept. goons in management or just directly work with the feds. I think internet takes on this are probably massively manipulated.
I think there's a lot of astroturf. I scrolled down on one of the
threads and saw a lot comments written like they're replies. Either reddit's broken, or a bot fucked up and posted threads to the top level, or people with strong feelings about Israel don't know how to reply to comments on reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/174kae0/more_than_100_bodies_found_in_israeli_kibbutz/
Comments by tibbles1, LeftLeftRightRight, jiaxingseng, notaredditer13 and probably many others are written like replies and quote comments that I can't find. Although there are a lot of deleted comments.
on the topic of Reddit:
“I know what it’s like to live under censorship,” [Ashooh] said. “My internal check, when I’m arguing for a restrictive policy on the site, is Do I sound like an Arab government? If so, maybe I should scale it back.” On the other hand, she said, “people hide behind the notion that there’s a bright line between ideology and action, but some ideologies are inherently more violent than others.”
Check out that list of credits. The Atlantic Council corroborates it: https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/expert/jessica-ashooh/
People in trade school probably aren't in the turbo-lib bubble so their brains are still less than 50% worm