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It's easy to call the people you don't like "terrorists" after you put them in the world's largest open air prison, allow them no voice in their governance, deny them basic human necessities, and they predicably act out of desperation .
What's hard, and the right thing, is the force holding the bigger gun exercising restraint in their response.
But we're sending two aircraft carriers to back up that already far superior force as they punch down and possibly do a genocide. No amount of conditional soup makes organized religion worth the continuous, murderous madness it brings.
If you're willing to kill real people or die for an imaginary friend, you're the problem.
Hamas people literally shot-up a music fest, murdering a whole lot of civilians, kidnaping even more. Where would you draw the line before calling them terrorists?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade_of_the_Gaza_Strip
Maybe when they're no longer perpetual prisoners. When you make hope impossible, you make vengeance an alluring alternative.
The US was founded on revolting against hilariously less tyranny than this. If you were a Palestinian watching your oppressor host lavish concerts for their children as yours starve, would you tell them that peaceful resignation is the only option?
There are no good guys in this conflict, only slightly varying degrees of dehumanization, cruelty, and violence.
If Israel or Palestine wanted peace, either or both of them should become secular states. But neither values peace. They both value believing they're some imaginary god's soldiers in some stupid imaginary soul war. Human life > anyone's stupid ass religion. If they want to pray to Pikachu at 2am hopping on one leg except on Saturday nobody cares, but making your fantasy other people's problem at gunpoint makes you wrong, every time. It is no less insane than shooting a d&d dungeon master in the chest with a gun because you lost your buff roll. It's bonkers that we support any theocracy, let alone one proud theocracy over another.
Yes they have every right to take up arms and fight a revolution against Israel. Doesn't make the killing of civilians morally justifiable.
You say that as if they're a rival military force. You say that as if Hamas hasn't repeatedly attacked Israeli soldiers on the only scale they can manage, single digits at a time, only to have the Israeli government retaliate against civilian populations from a distance in far larger numbers. Hamas cannot oppose the enemy actively oppressing their people on symmetrical terms. They only have targets of opportunity.
Israel, on the other hand, can and do unload on civilians regularly, the global media just doesn't consider those civilian deaths to be newsworthy.
This guy didn't call Israel good. He just said if you shoot up a music festival, you're a terrorist.
If you put even 10% of your energy you put into trying to be heard into trying to hear then you could probably aim your homilies at the people who need to hear them. You could maybe engage in an actual dialogue if you read before you typed.
Alright, when the same media that condemns Hamas for terrorism also condemns Israel for terrorism, when the same countries that supply weapons, ammunition, and just about anything that can be used to kill people either also supply Palestine with the same resources or just NOT GIVE ANYONE WAR-RELATED RESOURCES AT ALL, then we can talk about condemning Hamas.
It's really interesting that we have seldom seen journalists and news agencies asking Zionists if they condemn X atrocity, but see it all the time with Zionists.
Here is just a reminder of a few Zionist atrocities that have never seen justice.
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This guy didn't call Israel good. He just said if you shoot up a music festival, you're a terrorist.
If you put even 10% of your energy you put into trying to be heard into trying to hear then you could probably aim your homilies at the people who need to hear them. You could maybe engage in an actual dialogue if you read before you typed.
Think the carriers are mostly there more to say “nobody else get involved” and help prevent this from becoming a wider conflict.