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Putin tried this in Ukraine but failed mostly due to scope and western support.
Gaza residents are so fucked, it aint even funny as west cutting foods and supplies because some young bucks got tired of being fucked so they went all degenerate jihad. 2 million people will have to pay the price, they agreed to this or not. This is done by a recognized nation state against stateless people. Take notes, other stateless people, how nobody will do shit for you once you been subjugated like this. Got to fight early and fight hard, otherwise, you will be exterminated over a few generations. Trying to find this late into genocide is mostly futile attempt and PR.
"Beheaded babies" gave Israel blank check for reprisals and western media enabled it via fake news spreading without proper journalism being done.
how such thing was able to spread just in right time for Israel so well?
Asking for a friend.
Almost 70% of Gaza residents support armed attacks on Israeli civilians. There are clearly people who do not support cutting the heads off babies, and I sympathise with them. However they have had decades to leave. They have chosen to remain living shoulder to shoulder with monsters. As for the majority of Palestinians who support murdering and mutilating babies, they deserve to die.
People who live in Gaza do not have freedom of movement. They can't just leave, they need permission from Israel to do so.
The Egyptian border has been open for decades (with intermittent closures, such as right now). They do not require permission from Israel to leave. I encourage you to read up about this on Wikipedia, and review the geography on Google Maps.
According to this clown... Israel didn't do nothing and Palestinians doing this to themselves but if Israel did do anything, palestinians deserved it
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One more time in English please :)
You made two factually incorrect assertion in this thread alone...
I hope you are at least getting laid for this lol
That is just not true, I encourage you to read about it on Wikipedia. The Egyptian border has also been blockaded since 2007.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade_of_the_Gaza_Strip
At least you could read the source you cite.
Additionally, any Gazan my leave by ship at any time.
The majority are children how can they leave?
Gaza strip residents are poor so how can they leave?
Most of their parents are either terrorists or support terrorists. They're currently using their own children as human shields. What do you propose we do about that? Forcibly remove the children from Gaza? I'm sure terrorists sympathisers like you would be perfectly happy with that plan.
Wow that's really racist of you to presume that everyone in Gaza is in or supports Hamas.
Most of their parents died in Israeli attacks dumbfuck. Median age is 18 there, there’s almost no parents around.
Yes... The people native to the region must be either destroyed or driven out
Checks out ;)
Well, I mean, they could stop cutting the heads off babies. That would be a good start, right? Maybe then they could enter peace agreements instead of starting wars, which they've done repeatedly for 70 years.
I also feel the need to provide a history lesson, because Palestinians are not natives. Certainly no more than the Israelis are.
Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state.
Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid Arab-Kurdish Empire, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there was the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state.
Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state.
Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state.
Actually, in this piece of land there has been everything, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE.
Dates:
1937: Arabs reject the Peel Commission to create a Jewish and Arab state.
1947: Arabs reject the UN partition plan to create a Jewish and Arab state. Wage war against the new nation of Israel. Lose more land than the partition gave them.
1967: Israel wins yet another war against its Arab neighbors, conquering Gaza, the West Bank and Sinai in a defensive war. The Arab League declares the "three no's": No peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel, no negotiations with Israel. Israel voluntarily hands control of the Temple Mount, the holiest site in Judaism back to the Islamic Waqf, and made it illegal for Jews to pray there.
1979: Israel voluntarily hands the Sinai back to Egypt, returning land conquered in a defensive war.
1993: Israel recognizes the sovereignty of the Palestinian Authority over the West Bank and Gaza Strip in the Oslo Accords. Yasser Arafat uses it to support terrorism.
2000: Israel offers Yasser Arafat recognition of a Palestinian state in all of Gaza and 94% of the West Bank with East Jerusalem as its Capital. Arafat rejects it and launches the Second Intifada.
2005: Israel pulls out of the Gaza Strip, dismantles all its settlements, and forces Jews to leave their homes.
2006: The Palestinian people DEMOCRATICALLY votes hamas into power as its governing body
2008: Israel offers Mahmoud Abbas once again recognition of a Palestinian state in all of Gaza and 94% of the West Bank with East Jerusalem as its Capital and even offered to dismantle all their settlements. And once again, the Palestinians reject it.
2010-2021: Hamas launches periodic rocket attacks against the state of Israel and builds terror tunnels in order to kidnap and murder Jews while using the people of Gaza as human shields against the IDF.
2023: Hamas commits the worst act of mass murder against Jews since the Holocaust.
And wake news is still traveling...
Do you expected anyone to read this copy paste stript.
Shill account spotted.
Yup, read it. If you want to tell someone they are wrong it pays to actually read what they said.
What part of the long term and short term history they provided is incorrect - please provide dates, names, locations.
Biden has confirmed the reports. Is Biden a shill too?
Actually, he didn’t.
You willing to amend your position now?
https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-767951
It happened. Are you willing to amend your position now?
What’s my position? That Biden hadn’t seen it when someone claimed he had. So I don’t need to change shit.
Although a press outfit with a long history of backing right wing Israeli positions is far from an independent confirmation so even if my argument was that this is war time propaganda you’ve done nothing to definitively disprove that position.
Leave to where? Should they be forced to abandon their homes and their families because most of their countrymen are fed up with living in a ghetto and chose to fight back?
Almost anywhere. Most countries permit Palestinians requesting asylum. 100+ countries by my last count allow Palestinians to immigrate.
No one is forcing them. I'm explaining that if they like living with terrorists, I don't have much sympathy for them. People often proclaim that if there is a Nazi at the table, and 10 other people are sitting there talking to them, there are 11 Nazis at the table. I feel the same way about this. As for "fighting back," are you really arguing that "fighting back" is cutting the heads off babies? You fit right in at that table of Nazis.
You're the one making excuses for genocide, buddy.
I do not consider killing Nazis to be genocide. Do you?
What the fuck are you even talking about?
Depending on how many you want to kill, yes. By definition that is genocide
Yes nazisss... Rheee
Leave?
That they're being asked to is why they believe violence is justified.
And they are right.
I haven't asked them to leave. I'm explaining that being friends and sharing homes with baby-murdering psychopaths makes them bad people.
And right now, they don't have much choice about that.
Sure they do. They can move away from the terrorists and allow Israel to kill them. Most of Gaza is farmland. There are lots of places to go where there aren't terrorists.