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Bernie Sanders says Israel is violating international law with blockade on 'open-air prison' in Gaza (www.businessinsider.com)

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[-] GiveMemes@jlai.lu 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Occupied populations absolutely have the right to engage in an armed struggle, just not the right to murder...

I do sit in an ivory tower here, but so do you, and that doesn't make either of our words ring less true.

Take the words and actions of MLK, somebody who actually accomplished great social change while not living in that ivory tower.

Hate begets hate.

[-] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

"First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season."

Shallow understanding from people of goodwill is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection."

-MLK

[-] GiveMemes@jlai.lu 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not comparable. The white moderates that King was talking about here intended for time to do the work of social change. I'm not saying Palestinians should just wait around and get genocided, just that acts of violence against civilians aren't going to do anything meaningful except lead to more loss of life.

Try some reading comprehension on for size btw. In the first sentence of the comment you replied to I say that occupied peoples absolutely have the right to struggle against their oppressor, just not the right to murder civilians indiscriminately.

[-] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Yes comparable.

Saying that Palestinian resistance is only legitimate if it meets the standard of perfect moral purity is exactly saying they should wait around and get genocided.

And you know what? They are getting genocided, right now, at this moment, Isreal is carrying out a campaign of extermination that will make October 2023 a subject of history books for centuries to come, and the hill you've chosen to die on is that the Palestinians are also imperfect.

Try some reading comprehension on for size btw.

Try talking like a normal person and not a smugness overdosing reddit shithead.

I say that occupied peoples absolutely have the right to struggle against their oppressor, just not the right to murder civilians indiscriminately.

No occupied person cares what you say they're allowed to do, you privileged asshole. No resistance in history has ever risen to your standard anyway.

[-] GiveMemes@jlai.lu 1 points 1 year ago

Yes they are absolutely going to be wiped out in response to the horrific recent actions of Hamas. It's absolutely terrible, but a fourth grader could have seen it coming.

Also, stop painting Palestine and Hamas as the same portrait. They simply aren't.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Abu_Awwad#:~:text=Ali%20Abu%20Awwad%20