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They’re telling 1.1 Million people to move in 24hours in an area more dense than LA or London. In an area without power, fuel, or food.
They know it can't be done and they don't care. The rhetoric coming out of their government is pure genocide talk. One of the military guys got furious that anyone cared about Palestinian civilians.
I hope the US doesn't support this or stay silent. We need to have the balls to stand up to allies when they're in the wrong. The world said "not again" to the holocaust and now regularly looks the other way, and it's time countries stop letting this shit happen.
You know the US won’t. The gov’t is too far up it’s own ass and only sees numbers. Israel is profitable to us, and money is the only thing anyone in power gives a shit about. They don’t care that we’re dealing with terrorists, as long as the terrorists make them money.
Never again! Except for Tibetans, Uyghurs, First Nations in boarding schools/their forced sterilization, the Khmer Rouge, Pakistan/India/Bangladesh, North Korea, Rwanda, all the genocides by the Soviets, Bosnia...
Hundreds of millions of lives ended prematurely...
"Never again" is a phrase I learned in religious school as an American Jew, in the context of the contemporaneous genocides of WWI and WWII, and the genocides that were occurring in the 90s. I understand you're pointing out the hypocrisy of the Israeli government, but don't forget there are a lot of us out here who recognize genocide for what it is.
Never again is what was said after WW1, I'm not pointing out the Jewish hypocrisy, in pointing out the global hypocrisy.
Yes, but we don't have seats at any of the tables where that matters.
I agree with the overall sentiment, but some of these mentions are not accurate and imo devalues the importance of such important accusations (e.g. since when was NK genociding anyone?)
They run camps that are comparable to the Jewish camps during WW2, the only difference being that they're doing it to themselves...
Evidence? Beyond "A guy said that a guy said that.."
Are you seriously questioning the existence of North Korea's concentration camps?
https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Prisons-of-North-Korea-English.pdf
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/23/asia/north-korea-torture-prison-report-intl-hnk-dst/index.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/north-koreas-prisons-are-as-bad-as-nazi-camps-says-judge-who-survived-auschwitz/2017/12/11/7e79beea-ddc4-11e7-b2e9-8c636f076c76_story.html
https://www.amnesty.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/asa240012011en.pdf
Well, it can't because congress is non functional.
Hurricane evaculations over days are a mess even with power, fuel, and food...
The chaos with the with the evacuations is that everybody's driving in the same direction, and in Palestine, people don't have any vehicles.
1million+ people on foot in a war zone all heading in one direction on war torn infrastructure will be a disaster even without cars.
Don't forget that the shelling has already been going on for awhile now.
And all that assumes you’re actually physically capable of walking to the safe zone
Yes, it's the vehicles that are the problem and not a bunch of panicking people who don't know where to go or what to do.
I'm sure threat of imminent death at the hands of people who think they're baby-killers is probably not affecting them at all.
Come on man, use some critical thinking and context here. He clearly is not saying that cars some kind of an issue here. He was making an idle point about traffic jams in the US with hurricane evacuations and how that doesn't apply in this situation. He's not even making a value judgement on anything here.
They made a direct comparison. They placed blame on how vehicles are the main issue, and how Palestinians dont have them.
Maybe use some critical thinking skills yourself.
Who did? I was responding to someone who brought up that issue, so my response was related to their point and my comment was mostly intended to focused on how the lack of certain resources could negatively impact those who are dependent on those things.
Otoh, the the difference in travel modalities makes a big difference in what problems there are and my comparison to hurricane evacuations obviously lacked in that respect. It's only natural someone would point out that limitation of my comparison.
Or fuel, remember, they don't have water, food or electricity.
They do actually! A journalist was talking about it on Radio-Canada earlier today, he's visited twice since 2017 (having come back a couple of weeks ago) and noted the contrast between fairly recent cars and horse carts using the same streets!
True... probably actually a benefit that they don't have cars as they're less efficient than just walking. But for those who physically aren't able to walk for hours straight (depending on how far they need to go), some alternative mobility is needed.
Fuck off with your anti car bullshit. This isn't the time or place.
Nah dude, they have a point actually.
Ive lived through an evac or two thanks to some years spent in Florida during hurricane season.
A standard car is limited in the ways it can travel, it needs road or something approximating road so that it can travel without destroying the wheels, tires or undercarriage. If you put too many cars on a road there's only so much distance that'll be travelled in a period of time. Similar to a DDoS.
Walking on the other hand, well people can really just walk anywhere. You don't need roads you just need a decent set of footwear and it's difficult for walking to get backed up because you can just walk around someone.
Flying off the handle because someone pointed out that cars aren’t universally useful? Don’t think it’s the time or place for that tbh.
Telling someone to fuck off isn't flying off the handle.
Yeah so uh… a bunch of people are gonna die in 24h :(