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How is it the democrats responsibility to help elect a house speaker?
I have a diagram that explains the whole thing
"See, because 95% of the votes to remove McCarthy as speaker came from Democrats, they are the ones responsible for the current gridlock. We have presented multiple candidates including Jim Jordan and Steve Scalise. It is now up to the Democrats to tell us which one of these two they're willing to get behind so we can get back to business. And no, we are not going to offer up any concessions to help Democrats fix a mess that they created. We've done our part, now they need to do theirs."
-- Actual GOP talking points I've seen online.
This amazing takes completely ignores the fact that McCarthy spent the few days before getting ousted blaming the Dems for everything bad.
Fucker had it coming, and this is a Republican Problem, caused by Republicans, for Republicans. Democrats have no reason at all to help keep in power someone actively working against them.
Exactly. Democrats have no responsibility for any of this. They wanted Hakeem Jeffries,
They really don't have any responsibility. As you say - the GOP has the majority, and started his ouster in a situation he himself created. That alone should say it all.
But also realize that Kev did zero to try to get Dems on board supporting him, which is how this is all SUPPOSED to work. Compromise is how they built the system. Instead he actively pushed them away, promising never to work with them, offensively blaming them for the disarray, and pulling undemocratic stunts like starting an impeachment investigation with no evidence or even a vote.
He also reneged on deals he had promised the Democrats. Why would they trust him in the future?
They didn't side with the Republicans. But default, they never voted for McCarthy. McCarthy's speakership required republican support because he never got Democrat support. That's why his initial run for speaker took like 15 tries. If the democrats had supported him, it would've taken one.
The pandemonium in the House is purely Republican political theater. Democrats are merely allowing Republicans to showcase their inability to govern because they're not unified.
The fucking mental gymnastics to say 200+ Dems joined with 8 fucking Republicans....