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How do you feel about financing a genocide?
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The only thing I'm dissatisfied with is their free hand with bombing civilians along with military targets. I can understand that Israel is angry, and rightfully so, but they fancy themselves a western country, being better than terrorist Hamas. They can't let their anger take control. Bombing civilians undermines their legitimatecy, I think they should try and be as surgical as possible, like they did in previous rounds of fighting. Other than that, I fully support their desire to root out Hamas. Though conquering Gaza only has any merit to it if they decide to stay and govern it themselves, otherwise Hamas would just rise up again.
How about this, remove the blockade on Gaza, give everyone there citizenship and become a secular state.
When has Israel not leveled civilian buildings? Have you not seen charts comparing Israeli casualties to Palestinian ones?
I think Palestinians should be the ones who should be angry for the way Israel has treated them since inception.
I have so much to say over this comment. I'll try to be concise.
Read a little about the history of the conflict, as well as about peace talks and different offers that Israel made.
Ok, why not give Palestinian their own iron dome?
Kill yourself
And? Why is that a reason for Palestinians to be treated like second class 'citizens'.
Why does Gaza have a huge electricity deficit? Why is their water polluted? Why does Israel deliberately limit food to keep Gazans on a 'diet'.
You are a zionist pig and you should fucking kill yourself.
Then maybe Israel shouldn't have funded them.
The US-backed dictatorship in Egypt is doing the US's bidding? You don't say...
Israel hasn't made much distinction between combatants and non-combatants since 1949 - can't blame Hamas for playing by Israel's rules.
Right, because there are vast tracts of unused real estate in one of the most densely populated areas on the planet, eh?
There is no such thng as a "surgical" artillery shell, Clyde. And as for the claim itself... the IDF is no more trustworthy than the Apartheid security forces were.
Fuck Israel.
So weird that Palestinians would choose to live like this without the influence of any other party. They even built a huge wall around themselves to keep other people out.
See I’m against that. I think that individuals and groups have a right to be armed. Putting a blockade around a people to prevent them from getting weapons is a violation of those people’s rights.
Are you satisfied about they having a nuclear arsenal after this? It's not a rhetorical question, I'm actually interested in your thoughts about this.
I don't know, what does it matter? They don't even acknowledge it, nevermind about using it. The only instance in which they might use their nukes is the Samson Option, which looks like something any country would do.
It matters because it changes all logics in a war. In this case, I think it matters because you described them as angry, bombing civilians along with military targets. If they don't differentiate one of the other, the only thing stopping them from nuking the Gaza stripe is probably the inconvenience of being too close.
Ah, I see. No, they're not that stupid. Even if nuking Gaza didn't affect them because of proximity, they wouldn't. They rely on American help too much, and struggle as they do with international forces. Nuking Gaza would leave them ostricized and heavily sanctioned, if not invaded.
Or nuked
The politics understander has logged on
Wat?
Why even post?
Are you going to edit later?
This is Pig Poop Balls, which shows that this person disagrees with my opinion, to put it mildly.
Ah, thank you!
I would rather not have known, hahaha
I did not know people replied with that, thought it was a bot/troll.
I must have blocked whoever posted that.
Yay!
Looking at the geopolitics and many sides of the conflict, wouldn't other better and bigger groups join in if it comes close to the annihilation of Hamas?
Looking at Hezbollah and Iran, joining in as a minimum.
This would start making the war closer to WWIII.
Anyone with more information or confidence want to correct or add detail?
This attack will energize the populations of a lot of middle-eastern regimes that have been playing footsie with Israel over the last few decades - so yeah... both in the long and short term things are looking shaky for Israel. Would it lead to WW3? Unlikely... even if Israel's geopolitical reach and importance is curbed by this, the US already has another thug regime in the area that can do it's dirty work for it - Saudi Arabia.
They are. This is what the west is.