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[-] Zozano@aussie.zone 41 points 1 year ago

Exactly. Pretty common misconception about vegan ideology. Vegans don't think people in developing nations have a moral imperative to change their ways because they don't have an alternative.

I don't need to eat meat, so I don't.

[-] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 1 year ago

I genuinely wasn't aware of this. Have never heard that argument made.

So their position is basically that as soon as you have a sufficiently developed supply chain to buy refrigerated lab-grown or fake meat and get it home before it smells like a rotten protein shake, that's what you should do? But until that happens, killing animals is ok?

[-] door_in_the_face@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago

Nah, you don't necessarily need lab grown or fake meat to have a healthy delicious varied vegan diet. Legumes like chickpeas, different kinds of beans and lentils as well as soy products can provide enough protein and variety if you put some effort into your cooking. You do need B12 supplements on a vegan diet though, as well as some specific nuts and seeds to cover omega 3. So those can be a problem if there's not a lot of variety in the stores near you and you can't order it online for whatever reason.

[-] sorata@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I don't understand why milk is avoided. You are not necessarily harming the animal.

[-] door_in_the_face@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Maybe not necessarily the dairy cow herself, but she needs to be pregnant about once per year so she doesn't stop producing milk. That means that the calves inevitably need to be slaughtered (as well as older dairy cows) or else the herd would keep growing year after year.

[-] chocobo13z@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago

Never mind the practices that go into ensuring that they become pregnant.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago

I will happily drink any woman's milk if she's offering, but it's actually extremely weird that y'all steal cow milk.

[-] Zozano@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think it's extremely weird that you would happily drink any woman's milk.

But it is MUCH less weird than drinking bovine lactate and somatic cells.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

Uh, I only eat fake meat once every few weeks and that's just for fun. I can live off of beans and rice just fine and it's literally cheaper than meat lol

[-] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago

Not sure if rice and beans ticks all nutrients. Add potatoes and you're safe.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh yeah definitely! Also wheat, oats, nuts, vegetables, mushrooms, etc. I'm just saying, fake meat is a treat and not really necessary at all.

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