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[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Is conquest exclusive to euro-american history?

[-] porcupine@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 11 months ago

No, but modern settler colonialism is largely limited to the Euro-American present. White Euro-Americans built the empire they now live in on a centuries long campaign of ongoing brutal extraction against the rest of the world, then turned around and said “This is just the way god made the world. Why would anyone want to disrupt this natural state of peace?”

Peace for a slaver is not peace for a slave.

[-] SwampYankee@mander.xyz 2 points 11 months ago

Brutal extraction isn't unique to colonialism either. Colonialism is just ancient imperialism with boats.

That said, imperialism has never been moral and we shouldn't excuse contemporary imperialists, just like we'd probably be appalled at the exploits of Julius Caesar during the Gallic Wars if we weren't so far removed from them.

[-] ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

No but colonizing generally is.

With the exception of Japan.

[-] teichflamme@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Oh, really?

What about the middle eastern empires? Or the turks? Or the Aztecs?

Or literally any other force in history lmao

[-] TheDankHold@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

If you reread they never said those nations didn’t engage in conquest.

[-] teichflamme@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

And they also settled and slaved on the annexed lands, thus engaging in colonization

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee -2 points 11 months ago

Do you think all other borders were agreed upon via a nice arm wrestling match?

[-] TheDankHold@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

They already acknowledged that conquest isn’t exclusive to euro-American history so I’m not sure what point you think you’re making right now.

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