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[-] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wasn't that why Venezuela got even more sanctioned to hell with their Petrocaribe program? IIRC a fuel crisis (due to the end of the aforementioned Petrocaribe) was also part of the conditions for the current Haitian situation. The USA can't expect to control the entirety of Central America through sanctions alone. Hope AMLO follows through on that promise and Mexico can weather the storm.

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 1 year ago

Considering that a shit ton of US industries are in Mexico, i don't think they can easily sanction us. Also mexico is a huge % of their trade.

[-] AlbigensianGhoul@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well yes, but I haven't seen many US geopolitical decisions that could be considered "sane" over the past 8 years or so. They also used to rely a lot on China a while back, but the bi-partisan "trade war" keeps escalating. Biden might just sleepwalk into this one too, accelerating the US isolation even more just to "look strong."

But by "weather the storm" I mean the other tactics short of sanctions the US has perfected over the past 70 years to try and keep Latin American countries within their control. Colour revolutions, mass disinformation campaigns, financing reactionary liberal parties, stuff like that.

[-] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago

They could tighten the noose around key figures and their bases of wealth. It does not take much for capitalists to squeal and turn on the government if their capital is threatened in any way whatsoever. It doesn't even need to be an extreme or total sanction, just enough to anger some capitalists and then turn them on the government.

[-] Ronin_5@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 1 year ago

To add to this, the US wouldn’t dare sanction Mexico. Especially if it allied together with China. They cumulatively make up for 30% of all trade with the US, and are both major suppliers for their industries.

[-] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't see how that prevents the U.S. from sanctioning Mexico. The U.S. currently has or had sanctions on Mexican corporations that the State Department claimed were assisting Venezuela. I figure more targeted sanctions to bring Mexico to heel, if necessary, aren't out of the question.

[-] Ronin_5@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Because the US will self destruct if it does. Businesses won’t get raw materials for their products, or labour.

I remember one year they threatened to close the border because of migrants. But then backed off with just a verbal commitment given from Mexico. I can just imagine the perfect phone call trump got.

And that’s just Mexico alone. Trump had to back off on the Chinese trade war because businesses couldn’t handle the pain even with gov reimbursement.

Imagine what would happen if they sanctioned both Mexico and China?

[-] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago

You have very fair points, but don't understimate Amerikkka's stupidity.

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago

A big part of US production is in Mexico. They put their factories here because labour is basically free compared to the US, our economy basically revolved around that and raw resource production.

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