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US Vetoes UN Resolution for Ceasefire in Gaza (consortiumnews.com)

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[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

without giving a coherent explanation for the second veto

They said that they vetoed because "Brazil didn't say that Israel has a right of self-defense".

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago

That's not a coherent explanation given that the purpose of the resolution is to have a ceasefire as in both sides ceasing hostilities.

[-] CountryBreakfast@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 1 year ago

It doesn't even make any sense period. States are the ones that delineate "rights." A sovereign state would never need to affirm its "rights" or have them affirmed, unless their sovereignty was conditional.

So, all of this is a show the international (imperial) community plays to endorse the genocide. The US gives the occupier of Palestine the "right" to defend itself from blowback and demands support from its other vassals and victims to solidify the sovereignty of an illegitimate project through their recognition as legitimate players. Yet this seemingly challenges the sovereignty of the project, almost as if it is just a US colony in need of permission....

The US would never - maybe not even rhetorically - rely on rights granted to it by the international community to assert its imperial sovereignty. The society of states is such a fucking joke.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

well put

[-] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 3 points 1 year ago

I mean, that's part of the given justification for the veto, but it doesn't take a PhD in international relations to figure out that the real reason is obviously that both the US and Israel --and a number of other relevant players-- are currently knee-deep in operations and negotiations and that a cease fire, by changing the dynamic on the ground, would seriously screw those efforts.

My guess is that Israel has a plan that it wants to execute before implementing any cease-fire, and that the US is on-board with it for now.

Unlike most social media users, I don't feel like I know enough to take a position on whether this veto is morally justifiable or not. On its face it seems kind of lame, but I can easily think of reasons why it might actually be entirely justified. We will see.