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Israel trying to pass the hospital bombing off as Palestine doing it is utterly disgusting and guarantees Netanyahu a spot in the deepest pit of Hell for all eternity, obviously, but do not forget that

a) the only reason why Westerners will believe it is because they want to believe it - they are not being brainwashed and this is not some masterful propaganda being weaved around us to turn kind-hearted people into monsters,

b) no Westerner opinions matter at all. In most Western countries there is no real anti-Israel option to vote for even if they did realize that Israel was a giant factory for crimes against humanity, and Westerners protesting against things in general almost never achieves anything (tens of millions protested for BLM in 2020 and not only did the situation not change, it got worse), and

c) the people whose opinions do matter (both the people in the region, and the leaders who aren't already Zionist compradors) already know that Israel is full of shit and that they just murdered nearly a thousand civilians in a single bomb attack.

It is despair-inducing to think that the genocidal Zionist entity is so brazenly, so smugly getting away with bullshitting this away into a cloud of confusion, as they release their metaphorical squid ink just like they did with the stupid babies story, but the propaganda and the media narrative that they are creating isn't what matters. It cannot address the fundamental contradictions ripping the country, the region, and the world apart any more than masterfully-applied makeup can fix a stab wound. It can merely obfuscate.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update isn't coming because I'm sick and too focussed on the collapse of the Zionist entity.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[-] Frank@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

There's a lot of misunderstanding of what nukes do and how they work. A nuke in orbit, or even just high altitude, wouldn't bother anyone after the EMP effect ended. It's only like six kg of plutonium or something, with a lot of that mass converted in to energy and various other stuff.

Fallout becomes a problem when big nukes are detonated at or near ground level. When the super-heated blast wave collapses all the hot gas has to go somewhere. It can't go down because the planet is in the way. The path of least resistance is straight up. That's what the mushroom cloud is - As the blast collapses back in to the vacuum it created all the hot gas gets forced upwards in to a massive plume rising in to the atmosphere. If you detonate it close enough to the ground vast amounts of dirt and debris also get sucked up in to the mushroom cloud. When the nuke goes off it does fucky physics stuff and creates a bunch of nasty short-half-life radioactive materials that also get sucked up in to the cloud.

An air-bursting nuke isn't good by any means, but it's much less of a problem than ground bursting nukes. And, depending on who you ask, modern nukes are much more efficient at converting as much plutonium as possible in to energy, meaning less putonium and other crap left over after the nuke goes off.

[-] ziggurter@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A nuke in orbit, or even just high altitude, wouldn't bother anyone after the EMP effect ended.

Physicist here. This is false. Completely and utterly false. Half of the products of such an explosion are going to wind up in orbits that decay into the atmosphere. There's already been tons of radiation sprayed over the entire globe from satellites with radioactive material in them breaking apart in the upper atmosphere, likely causing a great deal of cancer over the decades. The last thing we need to do is invite orders of magnitude more of that shit.

modern nukes are much more efficient at converting as much plutonium as possible in to energy

Ah, the "clean nukes" propaganda. Please just don't. The nuclear reactions are the same, and in the process of an explosion caused by them, you're absolutely never going to get completion, or anything anywhere close to it. Whether they make it a little denser to start with isn't going to make a significant difference.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

How many millisieverts is the average person going to pick up over the course of a lifetime from a modern nuke going off at a high altitude, if not actually in orbit? How much Caesium-137 is one nuke going to produce? If it's detonated at the correct altitude to produce an EMP how will the resulting material be distributed over the surface of the planet?

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