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[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Reminder that Hamas rose to power with the backing of Israel as a counterweight to popular secular left wing parties in Palestine. The Hamas that exists now is far from what it was then and is not the anti-Semitic boogieman they created, but rather a larger popular front that has liberalized in some ways to the point that they are conducting the current defense against the Zionist entity as a united front with the left.

This is a thread full of videos and proof of how Hamas actually treats Israeli captives.

In one case their doctors even performed surgery on a wounded Israeli, in other instances they are shown protecting them from gunfire from Israeli soldiers, in others they are seen taking care of children, and in many posing for pictures with the elderly, one specific picture shows and elderly lady with a Palestinian fighters gun in her lap while she smiles and they both wave piece signs.

This fight is not as complicated as western media is trying to make it out to be.

[-] SwampYankee@mander.xyz -5 points 1 year ago

I guess this is ketchup all over that child's bunk bed & sheets?

And this is just black spray paint, right?

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

Fuck off. Posting unsourced shock images to try to emotionally manipulate people into supporting a genocidal apartheid state is disgusting.

I have zero patience for Zionists.

[-] SwampYankee@mander.xyz -3 points 1 year ago

Those pictures are all over the internet, but here's the specific article I got them from which I'm sure you're very interested in. You know the Nazis took pictures of Jews playing in orchestras and doing sports and shit, right?

I'm not a Zionist, but I'm also not a fucking moron. The world shouldn't be surprised when Israeli children get murdered in their beds, but we also shouldn't pretend it didn't happen and Hamas are just joyriding in golf carts with smiling old Jews. You're quite literally trying to manipulate people into supporting Hamas, a terrorist group that murdered and kidnapped over 1k people two weeks ago, for fuck's sake. And you accuse me of manipulating people by posting photos of the aftermath? You're a gaslighting piece of shit. See a therapist.

For the record, Israel disgusts me more every year. Netanyahu needs to be ventilated the same way his supporter did Rabin and I hope the settlements in the West Bank burn to the ground.

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not a Zionist, but I'm also not a fucking moron

Actually you're both.

See a therapist.

Very cool ableism. I disagree with you and think you are a liberal centrist both sides-ing genocide therefore I must have some mental disorder. Fuck ooooofffffffffffffff!

You are also flattening this conflict by claiming that Hamas are the only ones fighting back. This is not "Hamas" this is a popular front of several militant liberation organizations fighting for the existence of their people against a genocidal settler colonial project and you're painting them all as terrorists under a blanket label that you yourself demonstrably do not understand. You are also being manipulated by imperialist media but you have to be letting yourself believe this shit at this point because it is so incredibly blatant.

By the way those people that the Palestinian fighters are defending include Palestinian Jews that Israel is bombing all the same.

[-] SwampYankee@mander.xyz -5 points 1 year ago

Bruh, you're posting "several militant liberation organizations" propaganda and trying to suggest that "several militant liberation organizations" are hanging out with Jews and playing badminton or something. You clearly do have a mental disorder.

I have zero problem with anything you've posted EXCEPT that stupid Twitter thread full of propaganda photos. War is hell and people at war do terrible things. Don't pretend your side doesn't, asshole.

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't care what you have or have not a problem with. You have thus far done apologia for Zionism, misinformation about the Palestinian struggle, and posted unsolicited gore pictures without a source or a content warning all in THIS thread and you call me an asshole? Cool.

Also here's your cherished innocent settlers and what they have been doing for 70 years that is the cause of all this

[-] SwampYankee@mander.xyz -2 points 1 year ago

What misinformation? What apologia? Why are you denying what happened on October 7? Just say you support it.

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Just say you support it.

I support any means deemed necessary for colonized people to liberate themselves. You'd be crying over dead slaveowners in the 1800s.

Stop arguing with me you're not going to change my mind you're just digging your heels in to defend genocide.

[-] SwampYankee@mander.xyz -3 points 1 year ago

I'm not trying to change your mind. I agree with you. I just think you're dumb for buying Hamas propaganda and an asshole for spreading it.

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

And I think you're a racist piece of shit for trying to paint all Palestinians as "Hamas"

[-] SwampYankee@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Was that in the comment where I said Netanyahu needs to be ventilated?

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Saying one thing does not negate all the other things you said.

This is like, elementary level comprehension of words and linear time.

[-] RoadArchie@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago
[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Implying that fascist apologia is something that is indicative of a "mental health problem" is ableist on its own. We can call these assholes out without resorting to these sorts of insults that might harm your comrades and most likely roll right off their intended target.

It also undermines the agency of the one spouting fascist shit and in a way removes their agency and diminishes their participation in doing said fascist rhetoric.

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