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[-] bioemerl@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

"Energy independence" still means

It also meant reducing imports of oil by being more efficient and investing in green tech by lots of parties across the country.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social -3 points 1 year ago

green tech

Green tech like clean coal? Green tech like fracking to get natural gas? Which "green" tech are we talking about here?

[-] bioemerl@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Green tech like wind, hydro, solar, and geothermal. The big deal was the fact you don't need to import oil to run them.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The US is the largest producer of both crude oil and natural gas in the world. That's what they mean when they say "energy independence:" Not importing foreign oil.

[-] bioemerl@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

It is today after a massive fracking boom that largely happened independent of the big oil companies (they're starting to go gobble up the fracking pioneers nowadays).

But up until then nobody was sure of what to do and every independence was a pipe dream. That effort absolutely came with investment into green energy.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

So energy independence was a pipe dream until we had a massive boom in the production of a fossil fuel.

And that is apparently "green energy."

[-] bioemerl@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

And that is apparently "green energy."

No, but the investments into stuff like geothermal was.

Read this:

https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2005/04/20050427-9.html

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

You mean the document that starts off with "Expanding Refining Capacity," "Domestic Production Of Oil From ANWR," "Natural Gas Offers New Opportunities," and "Make Clean Use Of Our Coal Supply?"

The one that crows about $1.9 billion over 10 years for clean energy, but also mentions $52 billion in investment in coal?

That document on "green energy?"

[-] bioemerl@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Keep reading.

This is literally Bush - Republican president - creating green energy incentives and promoting nuclear power.

Energy independence movement absolutely included green energy, even if you are too blinded by the other stuff to see it.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I had a professor who was intimately involved in the Texas wind farms built under this program. So yeah, renewable energy (I read an article on hydrogen sourcing the other day and colors confuse me now) was definitely part of it.

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