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[-] trot@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

casually making up a "trotskyist" to get mad at

they always cry about "red fascism"

No, in fact Trotsky condemned the abuse of the term "fascism" (see: "social fascism")

and are staunchly anti authoritarianism

Trotskyists have read Engels.

[-] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 21 points 2 years ago

No, in fact Trotsky condemned the abuse of the term "fascism" (see: "social fascism")

They are addressing modern Trotskyists, not Trotsky himself. Did you miss that point or are you intentionally obfuscating it?

[-] trot@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

What point is there to make?

This applies equally little to "modern Trotskyists", and claiming anything to the contrary betrays a distinct lack of investigation with an overabundance of speaking.

Verification is trivial: pick your favourite trot website and look up "red fascism".

[-] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This depends very much on the flavour of Trot, I've found. There's not a lot of overlap between more Orthodox groups like the Sparts and, say, Cliffite splinters who are often completely divorced from much of Trotsky's theoretical positions.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago

Trotsky himself claimed that the Soviets and Nazis formed a united bloc due to the Pact, that was the second "camp" in his "third camp" theory, so he might call them something other than fascist, but he certainly gave them a very similar smear even in his own day.

[-] privatized_sun@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

casually making up a "trotskyist" to get mad at

"we are totally different than other ultraleft wreckers" lol ok whatever dude

Trotskyists have read Engels

yeah that's the problem, imagine reading a 150 year old book while crying about "Stalinist revisionists", incredibly out of touch from our material conditions

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