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Biden: Israel-Hamas war must end with vision for a 'two-state solution' (www.cnbc.com)

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[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

Netanyahu has made a two state solution impossible. There are 500,000 Israeli settlers in the West Bank who would violently oppose being removed.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

100%. The Palestine territories are more like a handful of islands at this point, not a contiguous space.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_C_(West_Bank)#/media/File:West_Bank_Access_Restrictions_June_2020.pdf

Just look at this map, and look at how integrated the populations are.

A two-state solution is not viable, not anymore, they have to figure out how to live in peace together. And that means integrating into one country, no more apartheid, equal rights, freedom of religion, the end of the ethno state, the end of the theocratic state.

Upon some reflection, I suspect when politicans are talking about two State solutions today, they don't mean independent countries, they mean Bantustans ... Which isn't going to solve anything, nobody's going to be happy with this

[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Bantustans is exactly right. They want to enact the South African apartheid model.

[-] glockenspiel@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Well, Hamas specifically has rejected a 2 state solution twice in recent history. Their official stance is to not negotiate for it and instead kill all jews and end the state of Israel. There's no chance at peace til Hamas is gone, rightwing Israeli government is gone, and Iran's nutjob religious class no longer control the state and export its cancer around the world.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 8 points 1 year ago

But the Palestinian Authority hasn't. It has, specifically, called for it.

Is this war against Hamas or Palestinians?

[-] SwedishFool@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

That's the thing though, if Hamas have an approval rate above 50% isn't it getting awfully close to a disorganized government and it's people that's engaging in a full scale war? It's hard to say the war is against a terrorist group when the group is backed by a strong majority of the population that supports their actions.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 4 points 1 year ago

I agree. When any group of people support something bad by 50% ten years ago it's okay to kill them all.

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