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Israel is a colonial project that invaded Palestine. It has no right to exist.
This argument is 70 years old. And United nation disagrees by voting FOR formation of the state of Israel back then.
The UN also voted for the creation of Palestine and the Zionist settlers still wont allow it
That’s fair criticism, however, Gaza is independently governed and was not occupied. Hamas is the main reason why true 2 state solution is not possible at the present. Remove Hamas, remove terrorist organization in power in Gaza whose goal is to destroy Israel, then the 2 state solution is reality.
If you try to make Palestine state with Hamas in power, then the moment the borders are opened it will get more and more advanced armament to attack Israel. Why on earth Israel would agree to that?
If Gaza is independently government then how can Israel cut off water, electricity, food and fuel unilaterally?
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/defense-minister-announces-complete-siege-of-gaza-no-power-food-or-fuel/
I am sorry. This is not "targeting civilians" in order to kill them. And "human animals" in this context is Hamas. IDF would not siege Gaza if there were no Hamas inside.
At the same time, while cutting electricity and fuel is effective in terms of reducing Hamas capability to fight, I am partly agreeing with you that cutting water and food makes no much sense. This is because Hamas would have food and water anyway (they would not share with civilians either). Cutting electricity and fuel is more effective though.
This does not change anything I said before. The IDF goal is not to kill civilians, but create conditions where it is more difficult for Hamas to fight. The goal is to destroy Hamas, and civilians are victims of this war, started by Hamas, used by Hamas.
The intent is ethnic cleansing. They have said as much that the goal is to depopulate the Gaza Strip. They have called Palestinians “human animals”.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/defense-minister-announces-complete-siege-of-gaza-no-power-food-or-fuel/
No, he clearly called Hamas “human animals” since they are not fighting Palestinians, but Hamas.
Yet they cut off food, water, fuel, electricity and Internet to over 2.3 million Palestinians over 40% are children. They killed over 10,000 who over 4000 of them are children. The actions clearly suggested they were collectively punishing them all which is a war crime. Israel is a pariah state and acting like it and the US is equally guilty for the genocide. The intent is genocide, and what we are witnessing is exactly that.