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[-] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Your logic is invalid. Your presupposing the vast majority of the world, believes in Hamas, you're saying 3.5 billion people or more, believes in hamas's cause. I don't believe that's the case, I would hazard a guess to say most people in the world don't care either way.

Even the majority of people in Palestine don't support Hamas, the majority support fatah....

You're assuming people's motivations. Which is very dangerous to do.

I would say by default most people are in favor of freedom, and if it doesn't cost them anything they would support people being free. Most people don't support violence, not because they're against violence, but they'd rather things just remain stable day by day

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago

Once again, Hamas is the only meaningful resistance against the genocidal Israeli regime backed by the west. Vast majority of the world supports the right of Palestinians for self determination including violent resistance against the occupiers. Most countries in the Global South have also themselves been victims of western colonialism. You can keep on believing whatever you like of course.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ah ok, let's take your last comment piece by piece.

  1. Hamas is the only meaningful resistance against genocidal Israeli regieme

  2. Vast majority of the world supports Palestine right to self determination

  3. Vast majority of the world supports Palestine use of violent resistance

I would agree that most people agree with 2&3. But it's a huge leap to say most of the world including the global south supports 1, especially since Hamas is advocating for a Jewish holocaust.

They may even be sympathetic to the current events, but saying the world believes in a genocide is a huge stretch.

In fact, your hurting the people who want to help the Palestine people, and end apartheid - by conflating Hamas and supporting Palestine you make it MORE difficult to bring support to Palestine. You provide rhetoric that is used against you, 'they just hate a religion other than themselves'.

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