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Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
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English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

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Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

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Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[-] Stoatmilk@hexbear.net 64 points 1 year ago

They are going to show us footage of a tunnel found under a hospital and people are going to pretend it proves something, as if building a bomb shelter under a public building in an area that gets bombed regularly isn't the most obvious thing to do.

[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't even care if the Hamas HQ is underneath a hospital, it doesn't make bombing it when it's full of people any more justified.

What Israel should do is they even vaguely cared about Palestinians but still wanted to get rid of Hamas is to let all humanitarian aid through Rafah immediately, including fuel, water, food, medical supplies - everything for people to survive relatively comfortably in those kinds of conditions; immediately stop bombing or committing any violence in the southern Gaza Strip; and give transportation options to people who want to move away from Gaza City to the south as well as a legally-bound promise that they will be able to return to their homes in Gaza City after the fighting is over, and that if their homes are destroyed, they will be rebuilt with Israel's help. Again, this is a absolute minimum base requirement in this situation, of course ideally Israel should just fuck off and collapse. And soon will, I believe in my heart of hearts, this is their final crisis.

It has always been a Western fallacy that overwhelming violence solves every problem you face. While this may sometimes be true in the short and medium terms - and again, only sometimes - in the long term, it virtually always fails to produce good results for the West. This is partially why we're in this global polycrisis to begin with. Once you teach the people you're oppressing that violence is the only language you understand, then they naturally learn to commit overwhelming violence back at you, at which point many Western countries proceed to cry their crocodile tears about how it's a terrorist act and it's unprecedented and it's against law and order and--

[-] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 1 year ago

I don’t even care if the Hamas HQ is underneath a hospital

Hamas doesn't have a single HQ, it's not a cartoon villain with one big HQ with neon lights pointing at it, there's multiple ones incase one of them gets bombed they're still in operation

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